2017 Ram 2500 4x4 Off-Road Package Video

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Ram announced the addition of a new Ram 2500 4x4 Off-road Package for the 2017 model year. The new setup will include several high-performance additions that will make this pickup quite capable on nasty terrain. More importantly, you can option this off-roader almost any way you want, unlike the Ram Power Wagon. Take a look at our video of the actual truck on display at the 2016 Chicago Auto Show through Feb. 21.

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Fiat makes a nice looking truck.

Man I would trade my 250 on this with the Cummins, that is one sweet ride.....

I'd say put better off road tire on it and run with it.

Nice looking truck but those tires make it just look like a sticker package. Not going anywhere off road with those.

Still stunned that this is just now coming to the Fiat trucks. Ford, GM, Toy, Renault have been doing this forever... Its an easy extra $1,500ish on the sticker and with the locker and shocks many will jump on it or just accept it being on the color truck they want that's on the lot that day.

An Off-Road package with glorified car tires? WTF?

As Clint has pointed out, about time.

So your basically paying a premium price for Bilstein shocks and a sticker package???

Nice man ! I would just change to mud terrain tires.

It's all-terrains, Bilsteins, skid plates, LSD and decal. I wish the tires were more aggressive and a leveling kit is a must. But those things can be added.

Well, it is an off-road package. You're paying for the stickers and shocks, but also a skid plate and hill descent control. It will compete with the FX4 and Z71. The only problem is it took them long enough! And it doesn't come with a locker. And it comes with summer street tires, not AT.

Those are LT all-terrain tires. No locker though. Ford SD had the FX4 pkg with hill descent control for years now. Welcome to 2010 Ram!

Chris, ever heard of a Power Wagon? It has a rear locker and a front one. Also sway bar disconnect. Also this frame won't twist with a few ruts.

The difference is the FX4 was/is a widely available package at a reasonable cost. A PW, while a great off road package is expensive (relatively) and almost as rare as a GM 6.2

I've heard of Power Wagons, but I rarely ever see Power Wagons. Even my local dealer says they do not sell very well.

The Power Wagon has become more like a toy with the new versions. Cargo capacity has taken a nosedive.

What an ugly truck... a mother can only love.....
FIX
IT
AGAIN
TONY

Boo on the leveling kit. I like the rake on a truck when empty. 6

@Alex - the Power Wagon actually has a standard limited slip differential in the rear that can be electronically locked. That is a vastly superior approach to just using an E-locker. An E-locker has a very limited range of usefulness.

As Chris has pointed out, the Power Wagon does not sell well. It is hamstrung by the size and weight of a 3/4 ton but comes up short in capacity. 1,500 lbs is pizz poor for a 3/4 ton. The previous PW better at 1,800 lbs.

Lou_BC,
It's horses for courses regarding differentials.

Off road a locker is far superior than a LSD.

On road a LSD is superior. But, not having a LSD on road does change your driving habits a little.

I believe a locker is better overall. The loss of traction on road is mainly around a corner you might wheel spin a little or as in my case there is a freeway ramp that will induce some wheel spin in my pickup in 4th gear at full throttle. But, I'm travelling at above 80kph in what is initially a 60kph zone.

Off roading a locker is best and FCA/Ram have realised this and are offering the locker. If it was otherwise they would offer a LSD as it would be cheaper.

Even Ford realises that a locker is great on a 4x4.

Really some of the comments regarding off road tyres are quite remarkable.

There are few true off road tyres that are fitted by the manufacturers.

Tyres are speed rated and if a pickup can do 100mph and it has a GVM of say 6 000lbs you will need to have tyres to manage this.

Tyres are quite light in all off road packages. Even those new BFG KO's are lighter than the ATs.

You can tell straight up at the shoulder of a tyres how much it is orientated towards on road vs off road.

Many off road tyres are really light tyres with an aggressive tread.

They will give you traction off road, but they will damage easier.

High speeds dictate how heavy a tyre will be.

Big Al from Oz - I'd be willing to bet that a locker is cheaper. Most just engage or disengage manually and the rest of the time are an open diff.

Firestone Transforce AT tires are not summer street tires - that the Transforce HT. Are they mudders? No, but Ram still expects people will need to drive on roads as well, where a mud tire will wear out in a hurry. And if more aggressive tires are desired by the owner, they can certainly buy them.

Same with the diffs. Yes a Power Wagon has front and rear lockers because the owner is likely to need them. This is not a "Power Wagon" package, otherwise why offer the PW? This is a package of improvements to give you some extra capability over a stock 2500.

At least the Ram uses good brakes and bigger rotors.
Ram gets it when they build a heavy-powerful truck they have to outfit it with good brakes to stop it.
Same reason why they use good brakes on race cars, when you're going 180 mph you need good brakes to stop!

It's an outrage that the F-150 has pathetic brakes!
I never drove any F-150 with good brakes.
The scatter-brains that worship their F-150 telling us how wonderful it is never tell us how horrible the brakes are!

The F-150 uses an electric vacuum pump for the brakes
HOW STUPID!
suppose the electric fails, the battery goes dead?
Why doesn't Ford include a boat anchor to throw out in case the brakes fail?
Why does the operators manual with the F-150 tell you to use wheel chocks when Ford doesn't supply wheel chocks with a new truck?

It's an outrage that the F-150 has pathetic brakes!
I never drove any F-150 with good brakes.
The scatter-brains that worship their F-150 telling us how wonderful it is never tell us how horrible the brakes are!


Posted by: Lou_DC | Feb 17, 2016 3:57:51 PM

You do see in the braking test fiat has far worse brakes than Ford right.

The F-150 uses an electric vacuum pump for the brakes
HOW STUPID!
suppose the electric fails, the battery goes dead?
Why doesn't Ford include a boat anchor to throw out in case the brakes fail?
Why does the operators manual with the F-150 tell you to use wheel chocks when Ford doesn't supply wheel chocks with a new truck?


Posted by: Lou_DC | Feb 17, 2016 4:10:55 PM

The electric vacuum pump is a secondary system on the F150. Engine vacuum is still primary. What about brakes that only use a powersteering pump for assist. What if there is a leak? What about some diesels that use a vacuum pump for brakes?
This should really get you going, WABCO medium duty hydraulic brakes are completely electric assisted. The world must be ending You might be smart by staying off the road because who knowas what might be behind you and something mysterious fails.

This truck is much better quality than anything made by Government Motors (aka China Motors lol).

It is also better than anything made by Fix Or Repair Daily.

Even Ford realises that a locker is great on a 4x4.


Posted by: Big Al from Oz | Feb 17, 2016 1:16:21 PM

An issue with LSD is many modern trucks now use 4 channel ABS with total vehicle dynamic control. If you have a rear LSD you now reduce the amount of control on each wheel the system is able to have on each rear wheel. LSD trucks tend to have a 3 channel system where the back is controlled as one instead of 2 separate wheels.

A limited slip? Behind the curve again...

What is a tyre?

Actually, I'll take a limited slip over a locker on a pickup, since most driving is on-road. On a Jeep Rubicon, I'll take the open diff for on-road driving so I can get the extra capability of a locker for off-road. The Rubicon will only let you engage the lockers in 4-lo, which is fine for that vehicle. I'm pretty sure the FX4 is open unless you manually pull the knob, and it only works at low speed.

That maximum steel paint color looks good under those lights.

That maximum steel paint color looks good under those lights.

1,500 lbs is pizz poor for a 3/4 ton. The previous PW better at 1,800 lbs.
Posted by: Lou_BC | Feb 17, 2016 1:06:47 PM

You are funny, because 1500lbs is exactly 3/4 Ton.

@RAM - compared to a regular 3/4 ton with a 3,000 lb cargo rating....

News flash for ya....

current 1/2 ton, 3/4, 1 ton descriptors have not had any direct relation to cargo ratings for decades.

Alex - Ford and Chevy lockers will automatically disengage at speeds over 35 mph. They re-engage under 15 mph. Those trucks will engage the locker in 4hi or 4x2 mode.

Both Ford and GM can disengage ABS and stability control in 4x2 or 4 hi up to 35 mph where it automatically kicks back in .
In 4lo it is something stupid like 56 mph.

Ram IIRC will not disable stability control unless in 4lo.

There's no surprises that the PW has a 1500 lb payload. They gave up some payload for articulation. At least it will handle what a heavy half-ton will carry. I'd love to take one off road. These other off-road packages: FX4, Z71, 4x4 OffRoad, Pro 4X, TRD Pro, they add a little bit of extra capability, but nothing real serious. Put it this way, I wouldn't take it anywhere I wouldn't take a 4x4 pickup that doesn't have one of those packages.

Sweet Truck Ram!

lex - Ford and Chevy lockers will automatically disengage at speeds over 35 mph. They re-engage under 15 mph. Those trucks will engage the locker in 4hi or 4x2 mode.

Both Ford and GM can disengage ABS and stability control in 4x2 or 4 hi up to 35 mph where it automatically kicks back in .
In 4lo it is something stupid like 56 mph.

Ram IIRC will not disable stability control unless in 4lo.


Posted by: Lou_BC | Feb 17, 2016 6:21:00 PM

Not sure on the chevy but on the ford you cannot disengage the ABS but traction control and stabilitrac can be disabled and as far as I've noticed they do not automatically re-enable at a any speed. The rear e-locker will disengage around or above 25mph.

I really wish ABS could be disabled as well as the backup camera during snowplowing operations. The screen changing back and forth all night on a camera that gets dusted over with snow after the first block down the road can be incredibly annoying.

Wow the front end on this truck is so much nicer than that butt ugly Ford Shelby F-150. This is what a real truck should look like. Nice job RAM!

Didn't the limited slip with traction control out perform G.M;s rear locker on this site? Extreme traction test? Love how these genesis on this Ford loving site think they know more than the engineers. lol

Stay thirsty,

@RAM - compared to a regular 3/4 ton with a 3,000 lb cargo rating....

News flash for ya....

current 1/2 ton, 3/4, 1 ton descriptors have not had any direct relation to cargo ratings for decades.
Posted by: Lou_BC | Feb 17, 2016 6:17:59 PM

I knew that, but it's not regular 3/4 ton. Regular 3/4 ton has 1500 lbs payload.


I just said you are funny.

not new ram is dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58LfFjkbOHw

Wonder if this new offroad ram drive on sand or if it will get stuck like this one...
http://mckinleyvillepress.com/dodge-debacle-photo-shoot-goes-bad-when-truck-gets-stuck/

A lot of people want a diesel 3/4 or 1 ton that is a decent offroader in addition to their ability to pull a heavy trailer. I think a lot of buyers would appreciate some of the mechanical features of the Power Wagon such as front and rear lockers and sway bar disconnects to help turn a standard 4x4 truck into an offroader capable of taking you through a variety of conditions. "Compromise" probably isn't something manufacturers want to explain to customers, even though every vehicle choice is a compromise, but there is some merit to adding more features to improve traction yet retain the strong suspension of an HD and detract as little as possible from its ability to tow and haul heavy loads.

Wonder if the new Craptors frame can handle off road? Or continue to be built Ford tough. lol

http://jalopnik.com/5820104/are-ford-raptor-frames-too-weak-for-off-roading

A Ford pickup truck in New York managed to help free several semi trucks from snowy roads Tuesday

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/02/17/ford-pickup-tows-semi-trucks-snowstorm/

It was staged by ford. Chris Johnson working the graveyard shift is fake name. I tried to find him , but couldn't.

Yep hemi it was even fixed in the last gen raptors you never see 12-14 with bent frames. No more week frames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywZuk3Hjstg&app=desktop



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