NHTSA Investigates Brake Failures in 2013-2014 Ford F-150s
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has opened an investigation into brake failures on model-year 2013-14 Ford F-150s equipped with the 3.5-liter EcoBoost engine. This potential recall action affects 420,000 pickups, which make up 36 percent of the total number of F-150s sold in those years.
In its investigation letter to Ford, NHTSA says that the complaints "allege symptoms of brake pedal going to the floor with complete loss of brake effectiveness, brake warning lamp illumination, and/or low or empty master cylinder reservoir fluid level with no visible leakage."
The number of complaints to NHTSA on this issue has accelerated in recent months. During the past 12 months, NHTSA received 31 complaints with 20 of them coming in the last seven months. There have been no reported injuries from the alleged issue, though four drivers have pointed to the brake problem as a reason for crashes.
The problem appears to be brake fluid leaking from the master cylinder into the brake booster, which causes the brakes to fail, but an exact cause has not yet been determined.
Ford's response to NHTSA reads: "We take the safety of our customers very seriously, and we will cooperate with NHTSA on this investigation, as we always do."
See the NHTSA letter to Ford here; check back with PickupTrucks.com for more on this issue as it unfolds.
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Like Ford always says, brakes are not important. Zero to 60 is. RAM lost again.
They should just recall ever Ford truck made, cause they are all pure junk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Atleast with GM's loose brake pedel nut recall you could tell something is wrong before you lost all your braking. Nothing funnier then watching the Ford clown bragging up Ford on the last GM recall then this comes in a month later LMBO!
Also any one else with a 2013 F150 notice paint peeling off and rust starting around the tail lights and gas filler door? My father's 2013 F150 isn't even a full 3 years old yet and its got some serious body rust starting already.
I HATE FORD.
Let the excuses and apologies begin. This should make the hipsters at the ethisphere institute cringe. I've seen their building. It's right next to the first church of appliantology
Atleast with GM's loose brake pedel nut recall you could tell something is wrong before you lost all your braking. Nothing funnier then watching the Ford clown bragging up Ford on the last GM recall then this comes in a month later LMBO!
Also any one else with a 2013 F150 notice paint peeling off and rust starting around the tail lights and gas filler door? My father's 2013 F150 isn't even a full 3 years old yet and its got some serious body rust starting already.
Posted by: johnny doe | Mar 9, 2016 12:32:42 PM
I mean seriouy, why do you set up yourself to look so stupid. You say you can turn a wrench but I hate to think of the outcome of your wrench turning. Get your mommy and have her read it to you. The issue states there is a loss of brake fluid...........hmmmmmmmmm if only there was some sort of red light on the dash that could turn on that says "Brake" to indicate an issue before the fluid got critically low.
Maybe you will learn to stop all your lies while your at it. You come up with new issues with your daddies F150 everything you post.
WOW 31 complaints, Let the GM fan boys eat this one up!!!
If there is a real problem we know Ford will recall these trucks. If there are 33 confirmed issues of the same failure then I suspect a full recall will be announced.
...STOP!!! in the name of love..before I break my face....
I can hear The Supremes singing that. Seems Fords 50k
beer can clown car won't stop. Just another pretty face that
will disappoint on the dance floor....surprised? I'm not.
I would never drive a Ford.
Found on road break dead.
Just wondering if Ford is going to reimburse all those drivers
who fried their shoes trying to stop.
2013 - 2014 , most of these trucks should still be under warranty. FORD should have been more proactive and voluntarily made a recall before the NHTSA got involved. GM notified the NHTSA about their brake pedal issue and informed them of the recall. Wow, what a difference in response of the two companies. Another Ford cover-up exposed.
@ Rich, dont call it a beer can, call it military grade like it is.....also this does not affect them per this article, 2015 is military grade....
@gmsrgreatatnottellingpeopletheyhaveanignitionproblemuntilmanydeathshappened, you and any GM person saying Ford is covering up something is classic, especially since GM is the king of cover up.....
I have a 2013 F150 5.0, and have had no problems with it at all. Been a great truck, including the paint and the brakes. Also owned a number of Dodge and GM trucks - they were all great vehicles and I enjoyed them very much. Just so happened that the F150 was best suited for what I needed. Hope you all have a great rest of the week!
The problem with all these American trucks is that besides
their endless complexities, these trucks are rushed to market
without a thorough ringing out. This bit of "we'll fix it as we
go along" results in all these recalls. I noticed that Nissan
videotaped the XD from birth to christening; give 'em credit
for that. We'll have much better insight into the XD by years
end.
It seems all 3 are subject to these nitpicking recalls: leaking
brake fluid, axle shaft nuts not being tightened, engine fires,
gear box breakage, electrical glitches....etc, etc, etc.
From what I hear, American Axle in Mexico pays its people
10 dollars an hour. And we wonder why the quality control
sucks? Lets see how many problems Ford has once their
Mexican assembly line is running at full speed.
Quality control of American vehicles has been an issue for
over 50 years. What we're seeing today is nothing new-just
more of the same. And since these trucks are an amalgam
of global parts, expect these troubles to continue.
I don't think that problem is , that f150 was rushed to the market.
Brakes components are tested and hasn't been changed for 20 years.
I think, that ford simply find new supplier and saved $0.02 at master cylinder. Sorry, Military grade master cylinder.
Need I say more about Ford. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
GM is the king of coverups no doubt. Even replaced ignition switches with the same part under a different part# and several paid the price with there lives. Ford will handle this and do it right. GM handled nothing and covered it up. GM should be a dead company right now just like all the people they let DIE with there big COVERUP. There buddy obummer has kept them alive. SAD.
@LMAO,
I wouldn't waste my time, let alone your time with that Twerp, j.doe. Just ignore it and it will go away.
Is FORD pushing quantity over QUALITY (more trucks over safety) in terms of pushing out more F-150 trucks? Or is it just a simple defect?
Mind you all manufacturers have recalls.
What kinda brake system does Ford have cobbled together that would allow brake fluid to get into the brake booster. I'm sure glad I don't drive vehicles engineered like Barneys Rubbles car.
I mean seriouy, why do you set up yourself to look so stupid. You say you can turn a wrench but I hate to think of the outcome of your wrench turning. Get your mommy and have her read it to you. The issue states there is a loss of brake fluid...........hmmmmmmmmm if only there was some sort of red light on the dash that could turn on that says "Brake" to indicate an issue before the fluid got critically low.
Maybe you will learn to stop all your lies while your at it. You come up with new issues with your daddies F150 everything you post.
Posted by: LMAO | Mar 9, 2016 1:18:26 PM
Look into story a bit more before going all OMG johnny doe! the Low Brake Fluid Light! The light only comes on after the reservoir is emptied.
“Applied brakes to slow down getting off Interstate I-85 and the pedal went to the floor with no warning other than the check brake fluid level afterwards,” an owner from Georgia wrote. A Texas driver said the fluid repeatedly disappeared almost immediately after refilling the reservoir.
“The next morning the brake pedal went straight to the floor,” the owner wrote. “No brakes at all. No sign of leak anywhere. No fluid on driveway. Vanishing fluid?”
http://www.autonews.com/article/20160304/OEM11/160309909/ford-f-150-faces-nhtsa-probe-after-reports-of-brake-failure
Notice the guy says no warning light till *AFTERWARDS*
So 420,000 is about 36% of total number of F 150's sold in 13 and 14. So how many F 150's were sold in 2015? That's a story that we're been missing this year. Since 2012 you guys have had a 1/2 ton HD breakdown until this year.
I assume the Silverado 1500 outsold the F 150 in 2015 and there for you guys are going to skip that story this year.
Moron doe, the fluid light comes on before the reservoir is emptied. If you had even the slightest clue about automobiles (which both you and cobaltsrgreat have shown not to) you would know the light is designed to come on when the brake pads are worn down enough to lower the fluid level enough to indicate worn pads. This is why when you take your vehicle to the local jiffy lube you need to make sure they don't top off your brake fluid. It is designed to move down with worn pads and then when you replace the pads and push in the caliper pistons the fluid it back up to full again. This is the most basic information as you can get next to how to add gasoline to your car or gas powered truck. But again you have shown yourself as a complete mechanical idiot.
No lies bout my Father's F150 either, its finally got warm here. So I helped him clean is truck off from the winter road grim and found the rust spots.
@ johnny doe | Mar 9, 2016 3:19:37 PM
It sounds like the seal or what ever ford is using fails suddenly without warning. In situations like that, the low fluid brake light warning is there to inform you that your about to crash.
What kinda brake system does Ford have cobbled together that would allow brake fluid to get into the brake booster. I'm sure glad I don't drive vehicles engineered like Barneys Rubbles car.
Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Mar 9, 2016 3:12:54 PM
You do continue to prove yourself as a mechanic idiot. You claim to have worked with GM on powertrain components, claim to work as a fleet mechanic and have a whole lot of stories about this and that yet you cannot figure out how brake fluid from a master cylinder (bendix) can get into the power booster. No wonder why you don't understand supercharging and proved yourself wrong again with your youtube video. That was a huge laugh for me.
LMAO son you don't have a clue. I am not talking bout worn brake shoes. I am talking bout this investigation of the F150 with NHTSA on 2013-2014 brake problems.
“Applied brakes to slow down getting off Interstate I-85 and the pedal went to the floor with no warning other than the check brake fluid level afterwards,” an owner from Georgia wrote. A Texas driver said the fluid repeatedly disappeared almost immediately after refilling the reservoir.
“The next morning the brake pedal went straight to the floor,” the owner wrote. “No brakes at all. No sign of leak anywhere. No fluid on driveway. Vanishing fluid?”
http://www.autonews.com/article/20160304/OEM11/160309909/ford-f-150-faces-nhtsa-probe-after-reports-of-brake-failure
Notice the guy says no warning light till *AFTERWARDS*"
I get it, I proved you wrong so now you have to change the subject to something else. What ever it is to make yourself feel better dude.
No lies bout my Father's F150 either, its finally got warm here. So I helped him clean is truck off from the winter road grim and found the rust spots.
Posted by: johnny doe | Mar 9, 2016 3:28:35 PM
Then tell your daddy to slow down on those gravel roads and it will not wear out the suspension like you claim and he won't get all those stone chips that exposes the metal in the salt belt where you live. Can't blame Ford because the nut behind the wheel can drive carefully.
get it, I proved you wrong so now you have to change the subject to something else. What ever it is to make yourself feel better dude.
Posted by: johnny doe | Mar 9, 2016 3:36:41 PM
Get your mommy and have her read my comment to you slowly. Take it all in like you do in the backside. The light comes on before the reservoir is empty. Read it slowly. You can do it 4th grader.
@LMAO
I am not break expert. Could you please explain to me, how is it possible?
“Applied brakes to slow down getting off Interstate I-85 and the pedal went to the floor with no warning other than the check brake fluid level afterwards,” an owner from Georgia wrote. A Texas driver said the fluid repeatedly disappeared almost immediately after refilling the reservoir.
“The next morning the brake pedal went straight to the floor,” the owner wrote. “No brakes at all. No sign of leak anywhere. No fluid on driveway. Vanishing fluid?”
http://www.autonews.com/article/20160304/OEM11/160309909/ford-f-150-faces-nhtsa-probe-after-reports-of-brake-failure
Notice the guy says no warning light till *AFTERWARDS*"
Moron doe, the fluid light comes on before the reservoir is emptied. If you had even the slightest clue about automobiles (which both you and cobaltsrgreat have shown not to) you would know the light is designed to come on when the brake pads are worn down enough to lower the fluid level enough to indicate worn pads. This is why when you take your vehicle to the local jiffy lube you need to make sure they don't top off your brake fluid. It is designed to move down with worn pads and then when you replace the pads and push in the caliper pistons the fluid it back up to full again. This is the most basic information as you can get next to how to add gasoline to your car or gas powered truck. But again you have shown yourself as a complete mechanical idiot.
Posted by: LMAO | Mar 9, 2016 3:28:09 PM
The light indicates low fluid. It does not automatically mean replace the pads. In the case of your favorite truck, it apparently means it lost fluid and enough to lose braking ability.
Far from the most basic information in a vehicle. You really need to do something about your insecurity complex on internet boards.....
How do you get stone chips around taillights? How do you get stone chips around the gas filler door? How can a 2 and half your old F150 with Ford installed mud flaps since day one not be able to handle a slow driving 70 year old man. P!$$ poor design that's how.
wow LMAO
You are making Johnny doe look smart because you are wrong. I think you should stop commenting on this. The owners of these trucks had no warning, just brake pedal goes to the floor and the light comes on.?
Ford the King of Cover-ups continuing to build on their legacy.
The light indicates low fluid. It does not automatically mean replace the pads. In the case of your favorite truck, it apparently means it lost fluid and enough to lose braking ability.
Far from the most basic information in a vehicle. You really need to do something about your insecurity complex on internet boards.....
Posted by: andrwken | Mar 9, 2016 3:49:39 PM
No wonder all you guys are die hard GM fans you are complete morons without a clue. It is obvious that only a few here are capable of even reading. Show me where I said when the light comes on it means "replace the pads" if you GM guys had a remote clue on fluids and hydraulics you would know exactly what is the reason behind the light in normal conditions. But the light will also come on when the fluid is lost through a leak. Like in this investigation case.
@LMAO
I am not break expert. Could you please explain to me, how is it possible?
Posted by: RAM | Mar 9, 2016 3:43:01 PM
Go ahead LAMO, explain it to RAM.
LMAO
I am not break expert. Could you please explain to me, how is it possible?
Posted by: RAM | Mar 9, 2016 3:43:01 PM
Go ahead LAMO, explain it to RAM.
Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Mar 9, 2016 4:15:18 PM
It's easy, he is fat and lazy, he takes alot of breaks.
Wow the IQ challenged are sure out on this one. Ford has a recall? it seems Ram and Gm fans have been waiting anxiously waiting to jump on any crumb while ford trucks are out there doing work.
lets look at recalls and reliability shall we...Fiat/Ram is a horrendous joke! GM has had their share of recall and reliability issues but nothing like Fiat/Ram.
oh and to the IQ challenged 2013 and 2014 Ford trucks were steel not beer cans.
Love to here GM fans taking shots at military grade aluminum.. I guess your to simple to read and know GM is heavily trying to play catch up here and future GM products will be made the same way.
2013 ford rusted? idiot must have hit something to remove the paint....how come your crying about it as it would be covered under warranty unless it was caused by a foo who owns the truck.
It's easy, he is fat and lazy, he takes alot of breaks.
Posted by: LMAO | Mar 9, 2016 4:41:26 PM
I am not fat and lazy. My RAM breaks great. You must be talk about ford engineers. They took all the breaks, so nothing was left for ford.
I can't wait for All One to get a notice, that's his ditched Ecoboost is recalled because of breaks. Oh wait, he is fine. His ecoboost was 2012 and ford saved $0.02 on new master cylinder supplier for 2013 and 2014 model. Best never rest. Follow the leader. Ford is #1 and always will be .
Glad Ford made them from beer cans so owners can push them home.
Ford the King of Cover-ups continuing to build on their legacy.
Posted by: HemiFlav | Mar 9, 2016 4:08:40 PM
2015 Ford F-150 Recalled for Fire Risk
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2015-ford-f-150-recalled-for-fire-risk.html
YUP! Still got it. BBQ on wheels.
@Hemi,
You do realize it's not same Aluminum used in beer cans, right? Oh wait, no you don't you're a f'ken moron.
2013 ford rusted? idiot must have hit something to remove the paint....how come your crying about it as it would be covered under warranty unless it was caused by a foo who owns the truck.
Posted by: Canadianthoughts
Not when its over the mileage for that warranty. It wasn't hit or dented, it was the bad design. You can take you water hose and spray between the taillight and bed for 20 minutes, and mud and road grim still pours out.
Show me where I said when the light comes on it means "replace the pads"
Posted by: LMAO | Mar 9, 2016 4:11:51 PM
Moron doe, the fluid light comes on before the reservoir is emptied. If you had even the slightest clue about automobiles (which both you and cobaltsrgreat have shown not to) you would know the light is designed to come on when the brake pads are worn down enough to lower the fluid level enough to indicate worn pads. This is why when you take your vehicle to the local jiffy lube you need to make sure they don't top off your brake fluid. It is designed to move down with worn pads and then when you replace the pads and push in the caliper pistons the fluid it back up to full again. This is the most basic information as you can get next to how to add gasoline to your car or gas powered truck. But again you have shown yourself as a complete mechanical idiot.
Posted by: LMAO | Mar 9, 2016 3:28:09 PM
Brakes failing is a big deal. It's an even bigger deal if the vehicle weighs more than 4000 lbs.
Historically Ford has been dinged a lot by Consumer Report reviews for crappy brakes. They're pretty careful to avoid bias, not perfect, but careful.
Most of the key components in the brake systems are very similar from one brand of car to the next. A history of problems dating back more than 20 years suggests that Ford's assembly operations are not putting enough emphasis on quality.
@LAMO : RAM is still waiting on your explanation on how Ford's cobbled together brake system can suddenly allow brake fluid to get into the brake booster. Go ahead LAMO bring him up to speed. Oh, don't try and hide behind his spelling, you know what he meant.
Ford's response to NHTSA reads: "We take the military grade safety of our military grade customers very seriously, and we will military grade cooperate with NHTSA on this military grade investigation, as we military grade always do."
RAM is still waiting on your explanation on how Ford's cobbled together brake system can suddenly allow brake fluid to get into the brake booster. Go ahead LAMO bring him up to speed.
Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Mar 9, 2016 6:33:01 PM
This is how they did did it....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vw-bkF-A-U
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