Spied: 2017 Chevrolet Silverado 2500/3500

2017 Chevy HD SRW 1 II

We expect more sightings of the heavy-duty GM pickup trucks as we get closer to their debut, likely around the time of the 2016 Texas State Fair late in September. For now, this is the most recent intel we've had from our undercover photographers.

"This is the Chevrolet Silverado HD featuring the latest Duramax diesel engine, caught cold-weather testing in Michigan.

"GM is expected to give the Duramax diesel in the Silverado and GMC Sierra HD trucks a revamp in order to keep torque and efficiency competitive with the latest Power Stroke and Cummins diesels from Ford and Ram.

"Reports suggest the current 6.6-liter V-8 unit will be thoroughly reworked to dethrone the current Ford Super Duty in efficiency and hauling capacities, pushing it comfortably over the 425-horsepower mark, with at least 860 pounds-feet of torque. A heavy-duty eight-speed automatic transmission is also likely to become standard fare, but a 10-speed unit may not be far behind. No word yet as to whether Allison will continue as GM's HD transmission supplier.

"We've heard reports that the face-lifted HD trucks are supposed to last until 2020 or so, when the next-generation GM pickups will adopt a more aluminum-intensive structure to reduce weight as well as carry newly downsized engines for better efficiency and payload capacity is anyone’s guess."

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Comments

the last several articles have not been about ford, so remember that next time

Wow, looks the same as every other Silverado HD, they do need to catch up again to Ford and Ram, but this doesnt like any different...

I really love the rake on these new Chevy's. 5" front lift kit here I come

same big ugly bumpers

I heard the Allison 1000 is really a GM design, but they just pay a license fee to Allison to use the name. Can anyone here confirm if that's true?

Well gm owned Allison until 2007, the Allison 1000 in the gm trucks and hummer is made for those appications by Allison but the 1000 series has been made and used for many other applications buses ect. I took a Allison rebuild class and they are built very well. someone else may know more?

Looks like a small fuel door. Urea must still be under hood with low hanging tank below passenger door???

Looks like the regular 1500..

Only way to tell it apart is the rear-end...

no changes there, no sense in disguising it! Same old ugly stuff!

They need to move the Def tank off the lower frame rail at the least. It does get ripped off if you drive in deep mud ruts. Not everyone wants to lift a work truck.

They just disguised it to build anticipation for something new. Ford did this with the diesel f150 they were testing. They actually "disguise" it in order to draw attention to it. Isn't the collaboration of Ford and GM on a 10 speed going to produce one for HD trucks as well as half ton trucks? Johnny dope boy is going to have a heart attack when Ford and GM are sharing major powertrain parts and GM copies ford with the aluminum body.

No Ford articles because the only one the country of post would be the brake failure investigation plastured on every other car and truck site but they won't put it up here because it would make the f150 look bad.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20160304/OEM11/160309909?template=mobile

You must be ripping off the fuel tank also because the def tank sits a little bit higher than the fuel tank and the frame.

Aluminum and small motors. Now who's using that formula and who's ridiculing it?

Pretty mild really.

Looks like the big changes come in 2020.

Kinda the same trajectory the SD took with the reworked Powerstoke engine first that was then followed by the all aluminum body, reworked frame and axels a few years later.

I think leaving the Allison would be a huge mistake. But in the name of CAFE and GM and Ford did spend alotta money making that joint 10spd everyone has been holding their breath for that's going to translate into another 1.5mpg...

So how much of the truck will be aluminum in 2020? I forget, Who did that first? Who's copying/following who? We are certainly gonna see...

Waiting for the article regarding the NHTSA investigation into Ford's brake issue... while there have been 0 injuries and 0 deaths so far Ford never should have let it get to the point where the feds get involved.

You will see a MCE this fall at the Texas State Fair along with a MCE for the Sierra HD to go along with the new powertrain updates. Both will have new front and rear ends

I do not believe the Fordrolet tranny will be an HD unit. I agree for name recognition alone that it would be a mistake for GM to move away from Allison. Be kinda like Ram walking away from Cummins.

No Ford articles because the only one the country of post would be the brake failure investigation plastured on every other car and truck site but they won't put it up here because it would make the f150 look bad.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20160304/OEM11/160309909?template=mobile

Posted by: John | Mar 7, 2016 10:44:22 AM

Wow, NHTSA involved, another Ford cover-up exposed.

I thought i read somewhere that the Allison 1000 is maxed out on allowed torque so they would need a new Allison or maybe the 10 speed.

Its kind of silly but i wonder who will be the first to hit 1000 ft lb s torque.

You must be ripping off the fuel tank also because the def tank sits a little bit higher than the fuel tank and the frame.

Posted by: SKEETER | Mar 7, 2016 10:51:10 AM
No it doesn't.... It sits below the frame under the front passenger side seat. Hangs way down below the frame.

Yea its always bad when the NHTSA gets involved. Obviously the manufacturer didn't handle things properly/timely/effectively and should be penalized for it.

Perhaps GM could advise Ford on death/injury payments, and sending recall notices to the next of kin for those killed by the issue, or saying "I don't know" over and over at a hearing...

O that's right it hasn't gotten nearly that far. At least if Ford is fined it wont be money that belonged to the gov/taxpayer anyway.

Looking at one now a 2011 gmc
The tank sits even with the frame and pump pickup well sits a hair below the side of the frame but it sits well above the frame cross member. and the fuel tank also sits even with the frame.

@Skeeter, that wouldn't surprise me about the limitations of the Allison. The numerical part of a transmission model, usually indicates the maximum torque input in Newton Meters. So if the Allison 1000 maxes out an 1000Nm input, that's 738 lb-ft. The Ford 6R140 can handle 1400Nm or 1033 lb-ft. The Chrysler and Aisin transmissions don't follow that naming convention. The 68RFE just tells you it's a 6 speed for rear wheel drive application. The 8 is a score on strength but that's it. The Aisin AS69RC just tells you it's stronger than the 68RFE.

You can see the def tank well here.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2013/09/spied-2015-gmc-sierra-3500hd-crew-cab.html

@John, it wont make the f150 look bad, these are for 2014 and older f150's, the new military grade trucks dont have any issues

I can see it in person as i have a 2011 sitting at my work. If i get a chance i will do out with a tape measure and give you measurements.

the def tank has got to be moved!

Nitro:

http://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/31-f150-ecoboost-problems/12392-2015-brake-problem.html

http://www.carcomplaints.com/Ford/F-150/2015/brakes/service_brakes.shtml

http://www.f150forum.com/f118/2015-f-150-brakes-went-out-today-314601/

The 2015 model uses the same failure prone master cylinder Ford has used on all the models in the NHTSA probe. It's disappointing to learn that Ford still hasn't gotten serious about the widely known brake failure issues. Same with their chintzy brake vacuum pumps that rattle and seize up. Ford dealer wanted $600 for a plastic vac pump when mine locked up.

@John, it wont make the f150 look bad.

Posted by: Nitro | Mar 7, 2016 12:10:06 PM

Relatively speaking. LOL

Oh we don't know how bad the aluminum F150 will make Ford look, give it a couple years

@ Fritz, why do you GM guys try to cover up the Gm fiasco(no recall and causing deaths) by calling out every little Ford issue, it is really little, and relatively speaking no issues as I said. Just because there is a recall does not mean the world is ending, ALL vehicles have recalls, all have issues but it doesnt mean everybody has those issues.......I know at least 6 people who have the new 2015 F 150, and none of them have complained about them, I also know the same number of GM twin people, and most of them also have no issues other than square wheel wells.....not a big deal

will the trucks get a new grill style

Wonder if the 6.2L will come to the HD's since they up the Spring Hill plant for more 6.2Ls.

"We've heard reports that the face-lifted HD trucks are supposed to last until 2020 or so, when the next-generation GM pickups will adopt a more aluminum-intensive structure to reduce weight as well as carry newly downsized engines for better efficiency and payload capacity is anyone’s guess."

It's just their guess, Doesn't say they are going to aluminum/downsized engine. Will the Ford clowns please learn to read.

It is so incredibly stupid to have the fender lines 8" above the tires.

is the front bumper heated?

"Reports suggest the current 6.6-liter V-8 unit will be thoroughly reworked to dethrone the current Ford Super Duty in efficiency and hauling capacities"

Anyone else notice that GM only mentioned Ford in relation to competition?


Does the fact that they just camo'ed the snout means the rest of the truck will stay the same until 2020?

Why is that front bumper lower than the rest of the truck? Doesn't look right.

Why is that front bumper lower than the rest of the truck? Doesn't look right.

"GM recalling 473,000 SUVs, pickups in North America for brake pedal problems"....
Oh did we miss this recall earlier just this month?? Hmmmm
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-recalling-473-000-suvs-210748300.html

"GM recalling 473,000 SUVs, pickups in North America for brake pedal problems"....
Oh did we miss this recall earlier just this month?? Hmmmm
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-recalling-473-000-suvs-210748300.html

"GM recalling 473,000 SUVs, pickups in North America for brake pedal problems"....
Oh did we miss this recall earlier just this month?? Hmmmm
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-recalling-473-000-suvs-210748300.html

"GM recalling 473,000 SUVs, pickups in North America for brake pedal problems"....
Oh did we miss this recall earlier just this month?? Hmmmm
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-recalling-473-000-suvs-210748300.html

Why is the front bumper lower than the rest of the truck? It doesn't look right.

Why is the front bumper lower than the rest of the truck? It doesn't look right.

Why is the front bumper lower than the rest of the truck? It doesn't look right.

Why is the front bumper lower than the rest of the truck? It doesn't look right.

"GM recalling 473,000 SUVs, pickups in North America for brake pedal problems"
Oh did we miss one earlier in March??
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-recalling-473-000-suvs-210748300.html

"GM recalling 473,000 SUVs, pickups in North America for brake pedal problems"
Oh did we miss one earlier in March??
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-recalling-473-000-suvs-210748300.html

At least if Ford is fined it wont be money that belonged to the gov/taxpayer anyway.

Posted by: Clint | Mar 7, 2016 11:47:39 AM

Depends, has Ford paid back its government loan yet?



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