Spied: 2017 Chevrolet Silverado 2500/3500

2017 Chevy HD SRW 1 II

We expect more sightings of the heavy-duty GM pickup trucks as we get closer to their debut, likely around the time of the 2016 Texas State Fair late in September. For now, this is the most recent intel we've had from our undercover photographers.

"This is the Chevrolet Silverado HD featuring the latest Duramax diesel engine, caught cold-weather testing in Michigan.

"GM is expected to give the Duramax diesel in the Silverado and GMC Sierra HD trucks a revamp in order to keep torque and efficiency competitive with the latest Power Stroke and Cummins diesels from Ford and Ram.

"Reports suggest the current 6.6-liter V-8 unit will be thoroughly reworked to dethrone the current Ford Super Duty in efficiency and hauling capacities, pushing it comfortably over the 425-horsepower mark, with at least 860 pounds-feet of torque. A heavy-duty eight-speed automatic transmission is also likely to become standard fare, but a 10-speed unit may not be far behind. No word yet as to whether Allison will continue as GM's HD transmission supplier.

"We've heard reports that the face-lifted HD trucks are supposed to last until 2020 or so, when the next-generation GM pickups will adopt a more aluminum-intensive structure to reduce weight as well as carry newly downsized engines for better efficiency and payload capacity is anyone’s guess."

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Nitro - Not a GM guy. Just annoyed the slimeballs running Ford these days rip me off by charging $600 for a cheaply made vacuum booster pump for my F150. They know these parts have design issues but they don't address them from year to year. Must make too much money sell a pump that probably cost $20 to make for $600. Same goes for their master cylinder. I had a family member lose their master cylinder a few years ago in their truck. Luckily they were out in a field doing chores and not on a highway pulling a trailer. They took it in to the dealer and Ford didn't show any concern that their master cylinder failed without warning.

Ford is the only auto company that is rated among the best ethical companies world wide.
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160307005450/en/Ford-Automaker-Ethisphere-Institute’s-List-2016-World’s

still ain't much to look at

Ethisphere institute? Yeah that sounds legit and reputable

The ford brake investigation isn't "plastered all over other sites" as someone said. It wasn't posted to autoblog or the truth about cars or motortrend or edmunds. It's not even major news because it's simply an investigation into a handful of cases of brake failure. And I wonder the extent of the failure if it hasn't even caused any accidents? And it's only reported 1 per 12,700 ecoboost f150s on average.

Ford is the only auto company that is rated among the best ethical companies world wide.

Posted by: Scott | Mar 7, 2016 8:20:01 PM

Who told them that, Ford? LOL!

Okay so while the exterior still mimics the 2015 models or perhaps these are just Test Mules prior to the actual upgraded appearance that has yet to be seen, overall, the biggest news we'll get from this is the Horsepower / Torque output and Towing Ratio of the new Duramax's and how they hold up against the competitors. Interesting as to whether or not GM want's to hold on to the Allison Transmission, I wonder if they will go with Voith if they choose to switch over.

Reports suggest the current 6.6-liter V-8 unit will be thoroughly reworked to dethrone the current Ford Super Duty in efficiency and hauling capacities, pushing it comfortably over the 425-horsepower mark, with at least 860 pounds-feet of torque.

Ford guys need not worry too much, within a decade Ford will catch up just like they did after the Duramax first came on the scene...LOL!

You can see which companies share with ford that rated most ethical here.....

http://worldsmostethicalcompanies.ethisphere.com/honorees/

Well the good news for Ford is at least half of the 2013-2014 F150's with the Ecoboost are probably already at the scrap yard - these things just aren't built to last. The rumour is they aren't gonna fix these F150s with the brake problems when they do come out with a recall - they are gonna take them out back of the dealership and take em out "Old Yellar style," and then offer you a buy back dollar value towards a "military grade" new F150.

""GM is expected to give the Duramax diesel in the Silverado and GMC Sierra HD trucks a revamp in order to keep torque and efficiency competitive with the latest Power Stroke and Cummins diesels from Ford and Ram.

"Reports suggest the current 6.6-liter V-8 unit will be thoroughly reworked to dethrone the current Ford Super Duty in efficiency and hauling capacities, pushing it comfortably over the 425-horsepower mark, with at least 860 pounds-feet of torque."

It´s a severe smell of CGI in that lines. GM must start with the new material if they want to catch up with the others.


At least if Ford is fined it wont be money that belonged to the gov/taxpayer anyway.

Posted by: Clint | Mar 7, 2016 11:47:39 AM

Depends, has Ford paid back its government loan yet?

Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Mar 7, 2016 6:49:28 PM

Ford took the government bail out with a greenie weenie sub clause.

Stay thirsty, Ford the prius of 1/2 tons. Glad my class kicking Hemi in 2500 doesn't have an EPA rating so they cant kill the power push rod Cross flow Hemi heads on that 392 Hemi.

Loving that free coffee and donuts at the local Ram recall center aren't you HEMI V8 ?

I come back and the big news here is a new GM truck that looks like the old GM truck with a bigger rake in the rear? I see the GMFANBOTS are still going full bore. Funny haven't seen BARFO here either.

Ford took no gov bail out money. It only requested that low interest loans be available if needed.

Still wondering if any other company has EVER sent a recall notice for an issue that killed someone to someone already killed by that issue besides GM? Anyone? Ever?

GM went bankrupt the ultimate expression of failure in business... until you look at Chrysler that went bankrupt and cant even stay in business on its own at all.

The very first Duramax was an attempt to catch up to Ford and at that time Dodge diesel truck offerings. GM has always been the laggard in the diesel truck market. They tried leading in the diesel car market and that was the biggest diesel disaster ever until maybe the new VW issue.

The only thing that GM can be exclusively proud of in the HD truck market is the Allison Tranny, and that was genius since they don't build it (just as the Cummins in the Fiat and the Duramax is an Isuzu).

Hey you can like badly run, insolvent, debt defaulting, financially failed, welfare needing companies that have the la largest buy back or the worst (large/with deaths/injuries/most poorly managed) if you like but just be honest. Even the Detroit Lions have fans but they don't claim to be super bowel champions even if they play and occasionally beat someone.

@LMAO, I was starting to think you and Al were involved in a Mexican standoff. I don't look for many changes (other than the hood scoop) to the looks, as GM just updated them for '14. My wild guess is 450/900 for the new engine. If GM brings an 8 speed, Ford engineers will be scrambling and Ram (Cummins) people will be back to the drawing board.

6.2s in an HD?

Great, everybody can buy premium for their heavy duty truck, right?

At least you won't have that Def tank problem.

@Clint, you really need to educate yourself about GM products and give the Ford fan boy bit a rest. GM owned Allison until 2007. GM is the majority partner in Duramax LTD in Moraine, OH. All development work on the current LML was done by GM. That said, Isuzu has been building diesels forever- why not use their expertise. It seems to me that Ford used Navistar engines for what, almost 20 years. It was a good move for Ford until emissions requirements killed everything (partnership AND engines). In business you have to go with what works. I have no experience with them, but the Mexican built 6.7 Powerstroke seems to be a good engine.

@LMAO,

Funny how Big Al hasnt surfaced isnt it? Soon, GMSRBAD,MARKnoneducated49, Johnnydump will also disappear.....and the site will be whole again

Still waiting for that Ford brake problem to get published.

LMAO, I was starting to think you and Al were involved in a Mexican standoff. I don't look for many changes (other than the hood scoop) to the looks, as GM just updated them for '14. My wild guess is 450/900 for the new engine. If GM brings an 8 speed, Ford engineers will be scrambling and Ram (Cummins) people will be back to the drawing board.


Posted by: mark49 | Mar 8, 2016 6:45:58 AM

LOL, no stand off. Just a nice long vacation with the wife.

The 6.6 is capable of good power and it is a solid engine. I'm sure it will need some updates for reliable increase of power and emissions as the standards increase all the time. Hopefully they plan ahead for the future for easy upgrades. I am curious on transmission. Will GM be the first for a 8 speed HD tranny or will there be an upgraded Allison. Very curious to see what the numbers will be on this. Also excited to see the numbers for the powerstroke. You can bet Ford will not be overtaken easily. The Cummins is getting limited. You cannot get 900lbft of torque in a medium duty with the 6.7L. You have to go to the ISL and a allison 3000 for that kind of power. I understand the Cummins programming will not allow the full 900 torque till 3rd gear either. Like to see some official clarification on that though.

I'm sure you are. smh. PUTC already wrote about last June.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2015/06/nhtsa-to-investigate-2011-2012-ford-f-150s.html

Stop asking about that idiot that was suspended.

6.2s in an HD?

Great, everybody can buy premium for their heavy duty truck, right?

At least you won't have that Def tank problem.


Posted by: TRX-4 Tom | Mar 8, 2016 7:19:11 AM

It will need some strengthening if they put that in a HD. Johnny welfare doe says the 6.2L in the 1500 is lighter than the Ford 3.5 GTDI. If that is the case GM built that 6.2 to be light and for power. Durability you need robust components for hard work. The 6.0 has proven to be a good engine. Not sure how much more power can be squeezed out of it though. GM has done well with its gearing to help with the low torque numbers but it all depends where GM wants to go. Good solid engines like the GM 6.0L even the old 8.1L and the Ford 6.2L and 6.8L are worth its weight in gold for reliability.

Ford did take money in a very low interest loan in a agreement that would build the cars Obama wanted. but they have yet to pay this back as far as i know. Ford is looking like government motors now. they sold their sole and now they make turbo weed wacker motors. LOL

http://www.chevyhardcore.com/news/editorial-did-ford-take-bailout-money-too-yes-they-did/

People can blame GM all they want but it was our government that decided to sell their stocks at a loss before gm stock even peaked. GM also paided back their loans with interest.

I'm sure you are. smh. PUTC already wrote about last June.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2015/06/nhtsa-to-investigate-2011-2012-ford-f-150s.html

Posted by: Jason | Mar 8, 2016 9:04:14 AM

I'm sure Ford has got their legal team whipped into shape for this attempted cover-up. Sadly, Ford is infamous for tying things up in negotiations, back room dealings and out of court settlements vs just stepping up and fixing this imminent time bomb. Can you say exploding Pintos and Explorers.

Got any proof of that cobaltsrgreat? Or are you just speaking crap again like you always do. GM and RAM seems to be the masters of cover up.

Never heard of exploding Explorers?? Looks like more cobaltsrgreat crappaganda.

@LMAO : Still got your Ford blinders on, huh. You must be still be in denial of the killing Ford did with the their Pintos and the out of court settlements with victims of Explorers with exploding tires, hence, the nicname Ford Exploders. Ford knew the tires were at Fault but rather source a safer tire for their customers, they chose the cheaper route and stuck with Firestone tires. Very sad really, .......hey, ......what do you expect, it's Ford.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestone_and_Ford_tire_controversy#Problem_detection

http://www.citizen.org/autosafety/article_redirect.cfm?ID=5413

"GM recalling 473,000 SUVs, pickups in North America for brake pedal problems"..
Oh and did you GM fans miss your "brake failure recall earlier in March?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-recalling-473-000-suvs-210748300.html

"GM recalling 473,000 SUVs, pickups in North America for brake pedal problems"..
Oh and did you GM fans miss your "brake failure recall earlier in March?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-recalling-473-000-suvs-210748300.html

"GM recalling 473,000 SUVs, pickups in North America for brake pedal problems"..
Oh and did you GM fans miss your "brake failure recall earlier in March?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-recalling-473-000-suvs-210748300.html

"GM recalling 473,000 SUVs, pickups in North America for brake pedal problems"..
Oh and did you GM fans miss your "brake failure recall earlier in March?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-recalling-473-000-suvs-210748300.html

Do you have anything from this century and not when you were 25 years old and the pinto was still being produced. Between the two of us your blinders are on way tighter than mine. In fact your wife could have been a victim of the GM ignition switch fiasco and you would be dumb enough to blame it on her. I'm sorry but everything you say is far from objective and just pure GM ignorance. Please, go away till you smarten up a little.

@ LMAO : Hey, i'll smarten up right after you manage to get out of that Ford toddler leash they have strapped to you.

Nice come back loser. May want to read up on what I just posted above before you continue to look like a complete fool. You really are a GM toolbag. No clue unless GM tells you what to believe. To bad you cannot teach old dogs new tricks. Your stuck pis$$ing in the same corner and will not learn how to go anywhere else. Pretty sad if you say me.

First day back and LMAO is calling people names like a child. One day the Ford clowns will grown up and learn to act like adults.

First day back and LMAO is calling people names like a child. One day the Ford clowns will grown up and learn to act like adults.


Posted by: johnny doe | Mar 8, 2016 12:36:28 PM

Speaking of child like welfare clowns. To bad you won't ever grow up. More johnny welfare doe insite................

Funniest s&!t I heard all year. I guess if you over clock the mileage odometer by 200% on your Powerjoke, it might make it to 500,000 before breaking into the cylinder heads or dropping oil pan then. LMBO!!!!!!


Posted by: johnny doe | Feb 29, 2016 5:34:44 PM

You got to love those square fenders and bazooka tail pipe.

Nice looking trucks, but the current Ford F-450 and RAM 3500 have much higher fifth wheel towing capacities.

"Ford is the only auto company that is rated among the best ethical companies world wide..."
Posted by: Scott | Mar 7, 2016 8:20:01 PM

Scott is right....

http://fordpowershiftlawsuit.com/

the best ethical company....

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-03-28/ford-sued-in-class-action-claiming-sudden-acceleration

Right on Scott!

http://www.fordsparkplugsettlement.com/

Go drive the trucks. Be open minded.

The hemi RAM sounds nice and has a smooth ride.

The Toyota has a strong V8 and is well overdue for some fresh makeup.

The Nissan is a niche model.

The GM models are are due for a remodel.

Ford has the freshest and broadest lineup in the industry...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdCxQ0OXIAAK9MP.jpg

When you finish your open minded review of the available models, you will find that the Ford lineup is the freshest and broadest lineup in the industry today. This is why Ford is the leading manufacturer of commercial vehicles. GM needs a remodel and some major rethinking if it wants to compete. GM is not ready to compete.

Class dismissed!

Frank B read the news, Ford is dumping cars/trucks for cheap fleet sales to make the numbers look good. GM drop more fleet busy and gained 8% retail where the real money is last month.

@Skeeter,

The DEF hangs significantly lower than the frame and it is right behind the RF wheel/tire which puts it into an additionally vulnerable location given suspension jounce and rebound after an impact. The fuel tank is inside the frame rails, as opposed to outside, before the rear axle, and does not sit as low, this giving it additional protection.
GM picked fuel capacity over appearance and longevity of the DEF tank.
But any serious rough use is severely limited by the low-slung front end and smaller tires. These "HD" trucks might post big towing and payload numbers, but their stance and factory equipment is woefully lacking a well-rounded HD truck.

Is GM ever going to change the body? Looks like the same truck they built in the 1970's, ecept the front bumper is about 2ft taller

The Gm/Ford joint transmission is a FWD 9 speed not the 10 speed.



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