Put that phone down and pay attention. Don't need a car or truck that stops for us.

Put it on a separate fuse so I can disconnect it! I agree with Fed up

You can currently turn off all of these features on Toyota models via a button on the dash or through the speedo screen.

No need to get in a bunch.

These stupid mandatory features keep driving the price up. That's fine, I'll just keep driving my truck. Waiting on the next crash when the dealers get desperate and I plan to take advantage of that desperation.

I really don't see why everyone is so concerned about this. If you pay attention like everyone seems to say, this system will never activate. So what is the big deal. But there is always that moment where you are not paying attention for what ever reason and that seems to be the time when something happens. Least these systems are here in place to assist when needed. The manual transmission thing would be weird though. I wonder if it will stall the engine or if the engine will be commanded off when a stall is eminent.

If it makes our insurance cheaper, go for it.

All this new safety device it only to help people who text in the vehicle and they don't paid attention people will trust the system to do the job for them ,,,

Miath, while likely true, it does not seem to make any difference in vehicles without it. People still seem to text and drive. I have seen a scary am o until of people reading a book or magazine while driving on the highway. If there is a safety feature in cars to prevent some idiot that does not pay attention while driving from plowing into my family with their car, I have no issue with it.

There was a case here recently where a 16 year old kid was killed in an accident from driving while distracted. How do you think their parents feel. More and more safety stuff does increase cost and I do wish you can opt for it or not for it but it is what it is. There is always pros and cons to everything.

If you want a real safety feature, have your cell phone disable the text feature while the GPS detects moving on a street over a certain speed. That way you don't disable it while walking.

God help us when it snows and and rains hard. I can just see all cars automatically stopped and not moving anywhere with these sensors. I think it was ford that had these sensors and it kicked in and their cars auto brake in the middle of no where .

They already have black boxes in your vehicles that know what speeds you're driving when - you guys ain't whining about that? And I'm sure that can be used against you in a court of law. This technology could save yourself or a loved one, one day. It's obviously attractive with the insurance crowd. It's nice to see Toyota stepping up faster than most of the competition to install this across their entire model line.

@LMAO, the reason i dont like this feature, has nothing to do with paying attention and the feature wont need to activate.....its more to do with the fact that what happens if snow chunk flies off the vehicle in front of me on the highway, and the truck thinks I will crash and locks up and then I crash.....

LMAO, the reason i dont like this feature, has nothing to do with paying attention and the feature wont need to activate.....its more to do with the fact that what happens if snow chunk flies off the vehicle in front of me on the highway, and the truck thinks I will crash and locks up and then I crash.....

Posted by: Nitro | Mar 25, 2016 9:39:30 AM

These systems have been out for years. Have you heard of any instance where this has happened? I never have.

Posted by: Recalled for Fire Risk | Mar 25, 2016 9:44:36 AM

Hey look, the forever to be a virgin does not have school today because it is a holiday. Hope you have fun in your mommies basement for the next 60 years.

@LMAO

Papajim suggests they simply disconnect the battery cable.

Considering the lack of any measurable stimulation or excitement to be had driving a Toyota in the first, what possible difference does it make?

MUST be able to be disabled, at the discretion of the driver.

I don't want the auto-brake system slamming on the brakes to cause a rear-end collision, when it "saw" a paper bag blowing across the road in front of me, and "thought" it was a little girl.

Unless this type of system is coupled with a mass-density detector (e.g., radar), it will be too prone to "false positives". But even the mass-density safeguard will not work for the falling snow sheet/chunk described above. We would know to drive thought it safely. Would the auto-brake system also?

Or what about having a loaded pickup that is relatively non-manueverable because of its weight and COM height? When I am carrying 2000 lbs, I guarantee that if a deer runs in front of me to look at my headlights, in traffic, --- that deer is toast. I DO NOT want emergency braking to occur, since it would destabilize my vehicle and cause a real accident.

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Stupid. So while your truck slams on its own brakes the idiot behind will smash your rearend. Let your government babysit you cause you're too stupid to take care of yourself. And we say oh please dear leaders, tell us what light bulb to use, and how much water we need to flush, and what not to say to offend, and how much salt and what size drink, ad nauseam.

By 2022 the federal Nazi government wis making this mandatory for all vehicles sold in the U.S.

This proves once again of too much government interference in our lives. The American Dream is about freedom from government interference yet the obedient sheeple in this nation want more and more government controls over their lives!

Is it because they are incapable to make decisions on their own? You bet! Is it because they are programmed to obey their masters at all costs, think fabricated 9/11 and other false flags? You bet! I could go on and on here about how weak this nation has become of late!

Just remember the true religion of this nation is their government. The mass hoard of conformist obedient sheeple want their savior, the government to save them, teach them how to live, teach them to steal from folks that have earned their wealth to give it to those that will sit around and collect, on and on...

When the old dumb bumper sticker reads 'God bless America', what they mean is for the federal government to bless them with loads of welfare for them to enjoy!

What a bunch of idiots in this comment section as usual. Guys with no engineering degrees or any knowledge of this system sure do make up stuff about how it could fail.

I'm sure the vehicle is not going to slam the breaks just because a paper bag flies across the highway. Besides my F350 I own a S550 Mercedes and it has distronic break assist. And my car is a 2006! It simply breaks harder when a collision is imminent when a driver has underestimated the situation.

Wait until you see the lawsuit and your insurance company's reaction to an accident where it turns out that you deactivated this nanny feature...

Especially when these systems are mandatory and keep in mind realistically we are only a liberal admin or 2 away from them being active will be law.

And that will be followed by fully automated driving with human driving probably eventually being largely illegal.

The question is not if?... its when?

Kowalski - -

"So while your truck slams on its own brakes the idiot behind will smash your rearend. Let your government babysit you cause you're too stupid to take care of yourself. And we say oh please dear leaders, tell us what light bulb to use, and how much water we need to flush, and what not to say to offend, and how much salt and what size drink"

Pure prose. Good comment. That is what underlies all this...

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@LMAO, I never heard that before either, but it must be the maintenance guy coming out in me again...

LMAO, I never heard that before either, but it must be the maintenance guy coming out in me again...

Posted by: Nitro | Mar 25, 2016 11:45:49 AM

I understand completely. I have driven vehicles with the collision alert but no braking and that system was not very sensitive. It did require a very specific position and deceleration rate of the car in front. I'm sure the radar and camera systems have some sort of mass detection also. While I'm sure it is not perfect, they tested these systems in a multitude of different comditions. They have the systems that detect humans too. Not sure if they all do or not but some do seem to work better than others in different test I have seen.

I have a car with adaptive cruise control that automatically brakes for cars ahead. Where I live in Alaska, it does not work half the year because snow obscures the sensor. Just driving behind a semi kicking up snow is enough to drop it out within two minutes. At least it doesn't slam on the brakes in those cases.

Drive through deep snow which obscures the parking sensors, and that system goes apoplectic. Combine that with rear sensors covered in snow and the car sounds like an ambulance inside with all the alarms going off.

These things are great in concept, but a little lacking in execution.

LMAO - Yes, feature would be handy for a teen to younger adult. Last I recall, the teens ALL got the hand me downs and the parents got the new car ... assuming they can afford it. Hell, I even think my 2001 Cobra convertible will be too much for my up an coming driver, but the insurance will be cheaper on that than on a "newer" civic!

Jimbo - MS in Mechanical engineering and going for my PhD after a few years in the real world. You?

I keep going back to the older cars/trucks. I'm not saying it's a bad feature, it should be optional. I had to disconnect airbags and other nannies when I go off-roading and sometimes out in the field. Ever see the new commercials where they drive a truck in a construction yard and it bottoms out the suspension? I dare ANYONE to try that! I've seen two trucks already deploy airbags while in a similar "hump" out in the dunes. I just want the option

Has been testing on the Hilux, so expect it next year or in 2018
http://www.automotivenews.co.nz/industry-news/new-toyota-hilux-tests-auto-braking-system-says-spy-agency-6368

lol Oxi, fabricated 911, what are you smoking some of Wisconsin's best?

What I don't like is when they rank them for safety, such as IIHS, in the vehicle that has the most gadgets to help you avoid an accident, gets ranked higher then the one that is structurally stronger!

LMAO - Yes, feature would be handy for a teen to younger adult. Last I recall, the teens ALL got the hand me downs and the parents got the new car ... assuming they can afford it. Hell, I even think my 2001 Cobra convertible will be too much for my up an coming driver, but the insurance will be cheaper on that than on a "newer" civic!

Posted by: ElSid | Mar 25, 2016 3:01:56 PM

Ford has offered a MYKEY option (GM is just starting it) for a while where you can program a specific key for limiting the vehicle for that user. You can limit speed, radio volume, seat belt usage and what works, and there may be more. I can see where this point you made would work great with this kind of programming power.

I have read more than one instance where an automatic system like this has applied full on brakes when there was no reason to do so. The person stated they would have probably been killed had a semi been behind them. I work with technology everyday and know how things like this are prone to fail as well as drive the price of a truck up and up.

My Dad just set up the MYKEY option on my 82 Escort GT. The brakes, air bag and seat belt has all been set to disabled. He left a case of budweiser on the front seat for me and told me to go have fun. My mom was worried but he assured her that he opened an insurance policy on me.

Only 6 years after Toyota came out with autonomous acceleration! :)

Nasty thing
who the heck wants that crap?
It would behoove Toyota to upgrade from drum breaks to rotors, before they start adding garbage like that.
Toyota always bringing up the rear their blind followers must
be cookoo for coco puffs

I say good. One step closers to napping when driving. Just think about it, sleeping through a long road trip would be awesome!

Here's an idea. Take all of these active computer "safety" systems out of vehicles so people must take responsibility for their own safety. People have gotten so lazy that they expect the car to look after them. People need to learn that driving is not a right, they need to respect the vehicle and have the knowledge to handle it properly or don't drive. No amount of "tech" will make up for people who are simply to stupid or lazy to learn to drive a vehicle properly.

You guys just don't get it. These safety devices are to protect responsible drivers just as much as idiots. It doesn't matter how watchful and safe you drive if someone texting slams into you at a light. If they really want to make driving safer put a device in cars(that can't be deactivated)that will disable cell phones while the vehicle is running. Someone caught texting while driving should get a DUI and the same penalty that goes with drunk driving.

Someone caught texting while driving should get a DUI and the same penalty that goes with drunk driving.

Posted by: Tom | Mar 29, 2016 6:00:48 AM

Amen!

Thanks millenials. This is the result of you texting and driving and not paying attention to the roads. I feel like driving was safer 10-15 years ago before the advent of the smart phone. This is one feature do NOT want on my vehicle. Can't even begin to imagine the expense of having to replace or repair brakes once this gets implemented. And what could go wrong if the Automatic Emergency Brake fails or starts to go out?

@ Red : in reality, the technology has already been developed and in place on some models. The base braking system should not be affected at all by implementing this tech, unless you are driving dangerously so that the system continuously covers for your lack of awareness. Most vehicles now have ABS brakes and with minor adaptation, will have the ability to apply the brakes without the operators input. My current vehicle has forward accident avoidance and lane departure warning and it basically works off of a forward facing camera. This technology will be available on new Superduty later this year. There will probably need to be some inclusion of proximity or sonar sensor technology which is already included on many new vehicles. So basically, the software development to bring all these components to work together is what will need to be fine tuned. Unfortunately, the overall vehicle purchase costs will increase but it shouldn't result with higher repair costs to the base braking system. ( Ie pads and rotors.) Let's hope that the sensors and cameras are built robust enough to never require replacement during the life of the vehicle.

Fyi trailerpartksrgreat I am here. But I will play with your comment later today when I have more time. Meetings all day.

Fyi trailerpartksrgreat I am here. But I will play with your comment later today when I have more time. Meetings all day.

Posted by: LMAO | Apr 1, 2016 9:48:41 AM

Yes, of course, go educate yourself first.

Yes, of course, go educate yourself first.

Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Apr 1, 2016 10:18:52 AM

Did that in college. But I am still learning trailer park boy.

in reality, the technology has already been developed and in place on some models. The base braking system should not be affected at all by implementing this tech, unless you are driving dangerously so that the system continuously covers for your lack of awareness. Most vehicles now have ABS brakes and with minor adaptation, will have the ability to apply the brakes without the operators input.
by: GMSRGREAT | Mar 31, 2016 10:37:48 AM

A very basic answer and just about anyone can say. But so vague as where you are going with it. A basic ABS system that uses vacuum assist has the ability to release pressure and apply some pressure in an ABS event. Since the majority of systemS I have seen doing not have large accumulate for stored hydraulic energy, it's ability to apply brakes is pretty much not exisitant without the master cylinder building up pressure first for the system in the volume needed.

My current vehicle has forward accident avoidance and lane departure warning and it basically works off of a forward facing camera. This technology will be available on new Superduty later this year. There will probably need to be some inclusion of proximity or sonar sensor technology which is already included on many new vehicles. So basically, the software development to bring all these components to work together is what will need to be fine tuned. Unfortunately, the overall vehicle purchase costs will increase but it shouldn't result with higher repair costs to the base braking system. ( Ie pads and rotors.) Let's hope that the sensors and cameras are built robust enough to never require replacement during the life of the vehicle.

Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Mar 31, 2016 10:37:48 AM

Lane departure does use a camera. It uses the camera for line detection but those systems can be false alerted if the line is faint and the road tar strips from repairs are bold. Great systems but can false activate. It may be that GM is using the camera as a poor man's accident avoidance by object calibration. It is useful but in true accident avoidance systems that I am familiar with they use a sonar. It is also used in adaptive cruise control. You need the sonar for object calculations. However pedestrian dection I suspect a camera is needed along with sonar. A person has a much smaller profile in radar than a car.

My current vehicle has forward accident avoidance and lane departure warning and it basically works off of a forward facing camera. This technology will be available on new Superduty later this year. There will probably need to be some inclusion of proximity or sonar sensor technology which is already included on many new vehicles. So basically, the software development to bring all these components to work together is what will need to be fine tuned. Unfortunately, the overall vehicle purchase costs will increase but it shouldn't result with higher repair costs to the base braking system. ( Ie pads and rotors.) Let's hope that the sensors and cameras are built robust enough to never require replacement during the life of the vehicle.

Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Mar 31, 2016 10:37:48 AM

Now back to the brakes. In an automatic braking system the brakes will need to be applied via the master cylinder. If you look there can be a device on the power booster that applies the master cylinder. It seems like I remember a mechanical device applying too but I will have to dig around to see if that is accurate. Now in full electric power assist, you have multiple pumps and accumulators so the master cylinder does not need to move. So sure the basic brakes aka calipers, lines, pads remain the same. However there are some major differences in systems that can apply the brakes. But, when the system fails the basic brakes should still be functional.

So trailer park boy if you want credit for a very very basic understanding of braking systems you have it. BUT there is a lot of advancement in these systems beyond the basics. We all are in a great place right now where companies make these things and they are fairly affordable.

@ LMAO : As I thought, you have very limited understanding of ABS brakes or how an emergency brake application can be made with out the operator input. ABS brakes make use of accumulators and powerful electric motors and / or solenoids. So during an ABS event with wheels about to lock up, the electric motors relieve the pressure to the affected wheel (s) by effectively allowing more fluid into the accumulator chamber. These motors then have the power to re-apply the pressure to the affected wheel by squeezing the fluid back out of the accumulator to reapply the braking to the wheel (s). So as I was saying, a minor adaptation to existing ABS technology is all that is needed to enable Emergency braking. Before you follow up with your rebuttal in an attempt to discredit my comments, check out how all wheel drive systems work where the brakes are applied to the spinning wheel, all without the operator input. This was a free lesson for you from GMSRGREAT College.

Your an idiot trailerpartksrgreat, the pumps produced the stored energy. THEY DO NOT RELEASE THE PRESSURE TO THE WHEELS. The solenoids and valves do that. You really are dumb. You continue with your massive ignorance.

This was a free lesson for you from GMSRGREAT College.

Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Apr 2, 2016 12:02:13 PM

Hahaha, good thing it was free because it is full of inaccurate information. Just like everything else you try to pass on as fact. What a turd.

In an automatic braking system the brakes will need to be applied via the master cylinder. If you look there can be a device on the power booster that applies the master cylinder.

Posted by: LMAO | Apr 2, 2016 6:16:59 AM

What is that device again that applies the master cylinder automatically? Is it an actuator? LMAO. Because if it is I want to see it. LOL . No, the electric motors, accumulator or pumps, what ever you want to call them, supplies the hydraulic pressure without any application of the master cylinder or booster for that matter. Of course, if you knew anything about cars or trucks, you would know how that worked

For those of you discussing being quick to disable your safety mechanisms. I hope they propose legislation to charge people fines when they run into people from behind and their safety systems were disabled. Its the people who think they are "excellent drivers" who exhibit the worst habits.