IIHS Plans to Release Half-Ton Crash-Test Results Soon

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You might remember the big news in July 2015 when Ford's all-new aluminum-bodied 2015 F-150 got mixed results during frontal-offset crash testing by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. Recent tweets from IIHS indicate that the agency is now ready to reveal updated safety information about other pickup trucks as well.

Crash-testing of pickups became big news early in 2015 after Automotive News reported that Ford used protector bars (highlighted in yellow and red below) in the F-150 SuperCrew four-door (the most popular of the segment) but not in the SuperCab or regular-cab models; as a result, the crash-test results among the F-150 models were reported to be quite different. Until that point in time, IIHS only tested a manufacturer's most popular pickup cab models, believing it wasn't necessary to crash-test other cab and wheelbase configurations. The brouhaha resulted in the IIHS deciding to test multiple models for each 2016 pickup brand.

According to IIHS tweets, it will share the results of its most recent half-ton pickup crash tests next week; those include tests of extended-cab and four-door crew-cab configurations for each of the major half-ton pickups (Chevy, Ford, GMC, Ram, and Toyota). And we've heard rumors that only one pickup is getting a "Good" rating in all seven of the IIHS categories.

We assume that all the major players followed the news about the F-150 during the 2015 testing quite closely and may have made small modifications to their 2015-206 models knowing that IIHS would quickly request new half-ton pickups for testing.

It will be interesting to see which pickups, if any, get IIHS' Top Safety Pick or Top Safety Pick Plus designations, especially since none of the big players, to our knowledge, have done much beyond an external design refresh in the last two years. We'll have to wait and see if any structural changes were made to help boost scores for the challenging frontal-offset crash test. Regardless of what the test results yield, IIHS' coming announcement will have all the truckmakers scrambling to improve their scores for the next model year.

Although the 2017 Nissan Titan is the next fully redesigned half-ton model to hit the market (but not yet tested), the Ram 1500 is scheduled for a significant redesign in 2018, while significant design refreshes for GM and Ford half-tons are likely to happen after that.

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I just checked the site, the Ford CC is already a Top Safety Pick. Tundra DC came in second, not bad for a 10 year old design.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/08/chrysler-pentastar-v6-subject-to-cylinder-head-failure.html

oh but that was 2012...

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/pentastar-v6-still-prone-to-cylinder-head-failure-82615.html

I am no engineer and it's questionable if FIAT has any but putting twin turbos on an engine with known cylinder head problems would have to be asking for trouble... Oh wait it's FIAT.... yeah the ones who just got the largest fine in the auto history with a $105 million dollar fine and have to buy back 1.4 billion worth of their crappy vehicles. lol

Let's get it straight. The Fiat Ecoboost copies official name is the PUG. Just like the front end of the Ram.

lol ....yeah they sold 10 of them in a 2700lb ferrari... let see how it does in a truck.

Posted by: Canadianthoughts | Apr 10, 2016 2:49:36 PM

That engine is mainly used in Maserati. They sold thousands and thousands of them. It won't do worse than ecoboost. It achieved 404 Hp and beat ford to the market already. You are still waiting for ecoboost high output .

The “F160” blocks were originally cast by a different vendor, but are now made at Chrysler’s Kokomo casting plant; they are “cubed” there, and some rough machining is done. They are then fully finished and machined at Trenton Engine, on different machinery and to higher specifications than the run of the mill high-production blocks. They have thick cylinder walls and huge oil passages for durability and cooling under severe conditions.

They will do just fine, but I will buy V8, if I still have a choice when on the market for new truck. And it's not going to be ford.I guarantee you that.

GM just redesigned there truck and they still can't get the safety right. Looks like the off center steering wheel of the GM's that isn't even centered on the driver didn't help its crash worthiness like they claim it does.
Posted by: Scott | Apr 9, 2016 11:48:57 PM

GM redesigned the body panels and engines, the frame didn't get revised.. And it's "their truck", not "there truck" you ignorant hillbilly.

@RAM That engine is mainly used in Maserati. They sold thousands and thousands of them. It won't do worse than ecoboost. It achieved 404 Hp and beat ford to the market already. You are still waiting for ecoboost high output .

LIES...not facts. Why do Ram supporters twist the truth?

in 2011 they announced they would modify the pentaster block..it came out in 2013 . SO NO THEY DID NOT BEAT FORD TO THE MARKET. it also produced less torque then the Ecoboost. Ford 420... pentastar 406

http://www.streetlegaltv.com/news/maserati-could-get-twin-turbo-pentastar-v6/

http://dodgeforum.com/articles/new-maserati-twin-turbo-v6-is-pentastar-based/

2010 marked Ford's public introduction of EcoBoost and 2011 was the year F-150 received its most significant and extensive powertrain overhaul in the truck's storied history: the flagship engine was now a 3.5L V6! Built in Brook Park, Ohio at Cleveland Engine Plant No. 1, with turbos from BorgWarner (Asheville, NC); the EcoBoost V6 is rated at 365 horsepower and 420 pound-feet of torque, with 90 percent of that torque available from 1700 - 5000 rpm, enabling the 2011+ F-150 to have up to 20 percent greater fuel economy compared to the previous year 2010 F-150. Ford was correct in their estimates that early-adopters would gravitate to the EcoBoost because of its combination of power, towing capacity and fuel economy. By the end of 2011, Ford produced 128,000 vehicles equipped with EcoBoost. For 2012 Ford tripled production of EcoBoost engines. By the end of 2012, Ford will have nine EcoBoost models available. By 2014 90% of Ford vehicles will be available with EcoBoost!

Ok folks... anything less than the highest overall rating is failure for vehicles easily stickering well over 50K...

Just want to get that out there for the Ram dolts, and GovM spin dr right off the bat.

woopud,
Crash test results do play a bigger role than you would think when purchasing a pickup.

Nice to see that the comments section is still overrun by 15 year olds, although they got be nearly 17 by now...

Nice to see that the comments section is still overrun by 15 year olds, although they got be nearly 17 by now...

FCA has 4.7 L V8 with 460 Hp in Maserati . I wouldn't mind this engine in Pentastar variation for my new RAM. It would be strong , reliable combination with 8 speed .
FCA is waiting for low sulfur gasoline in NA to introduce twin turbo V6 with Direct Injection in NA market, they use in Europe already. Some luxury ,Ford didn't have and needed to introduce Ecoboost to compete with HEMI in power . Ecoboost components are suffering from sulfur gasoline and doesn't last more than leasing cycle.
You should see first ecoboost piling up at dealer lot by now already. I wouldn't touch that engine with 10 feet long pole.


Ford has the latest design truck and obviously caught wind of the newer small overlap test coming. Hence, the steel crash guards that were added to help it during testing. So Clint, here comes the spin. Why in 2015 did Ford not include the crash bars on models other than the crewcab versions? Was it because customers of reg cab and extended cab versions did count? Or was it because Ford thought the IIHS would only test the most popular version, the crewcab ? I call, Yet another cover up by Ford that thankfully got exposed.

Crew cab hit a tree in that offset about a month ago locally. Driver had to be cut out because the firewall shoved the floorboard in and up, trapping the driver's legs. Let's see how well the next batch does.

Was it because customers of reg cab and extended cab versions did count ?

Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Apr 11, 2016 10:31:23 AM

Excerpt from my above post should have read " didn't count ".

by Ram FCA has 4.7 L V8 with 460 Hp in Maserati . I wouldn't mind this engine in Pentastar variation for my new RAM. It would be strong , reliable combination with 8 speed .
FCA is waiting for low sulfur gasoline in NA to introduce twin turbo V6 with Direct Injection in NA market, they use in Europe already. Some luxury ,Ford didn't have and needed to introduce Ecoboost to compete with HEMI in power . Ecoboost components are suffering from sulfur gasoline and doesn't last more than leasing cycle.
You should see first ecoboost piling up at dealer lot by now already. I wouldn't touch that engine with 10 feet long pole.


yeah your RAM needs a sports car engine.. I would call Sergio and see if he wants another brilliant engineer to add to that group.

The Ecoboost is well past your fantasy lease terms and sorry none are failing....Fiat is going to copy FORD and put a eco-pentastar with twin turbos in the ram truck and will eliminate the wannabe Hemi that does not have hemispherical combustion chambers. Maybe Fiat will cll it a twin turbo but just put one turbo after all the Hemi isn't really a Hemi by any stretch of the imagination.

yeah your RAM needs a sports car engine.. I would call Sergio and see if he wants another brilliant engineer to add to that group.

The Ecoboost is well past your fantasy lease terms and sorry none are failing....Fiat is going to copy FORD and put a eco-pentastar with twin turbos in the ram truck and will eliminate the wannabe Hemi that does not have hemispherical combustion chambers. Maybe Fiat will cll it a twin turbo but just put one turbo after all the Hemi isn't really a Hemi by any stretch of the imagination.

Posted by: canadianthoughts | Apr 11, 2016 12:08:11 PM

My RAM doesn't need a sports car engine. It runs and pulls fine with real V8 cast iron block HEMI. That would be your ecoboost you can call sports car engine.

5 years of ecoboost is coming up, so expect them on the dealers lot piling up after leasing is up. I would like to shake that fella hand, who buys that used and sulfur worn out technology marvel.

FCA is not going to copy ford, because Pentastar was designed from day one as modular engine, for direct injection, MultiAir and turbo application and FCA with Ferrari and Maserati has more expertise in turbo, than Ford.

Ecoboost is not really ecoboost by any stretch of the imagination. 2.7 ecoboost is MPG disaster. 20 years old 5.4 triton has better mileage. 3.5 is barely on pair with any V8.

I might buy Power Wagon with 6.4 V8 HEMI for my next truck anyway, so I don't really care about your silly attacks.

It'seems funny Ford made their commercial about the Government testing their vehicles, and how all cab configurations and all trucks were five star blah blah blah.

Meanwhile, over at the iihs, where the testing is a little bit tougher than the government's testing....Ford is failing.

2 pages of childish bashing.

Wait for the results.

Funny to see those whining about trucks getting written off. I'd rather that happen in a crash and walk away knowing than my insurance will get me a new truck as opposed to getting carted away by EMS and getting the same truck back all cobbled together.

I was at an MVC where the car that got hit broke into 3 pieces. The engine and transmission were in one spot. The subframe and front clip in another and the body in a 3rd spot. The other vehicle looked relatively unscathed.
Guess which vehicle had the occupant that was walking around uninjured?

BY RAM..My RAM doesn't need a sports car engine. It runs and pulls fine with real V8 cast iron block HEMI. That would be your ecoboost you can call sports car engine.

are you a forgetful alcoholic? you told me you wanted the Maserati engine in a Ram. No Ecoboosts eat Hemi's for lunch.

BY RAM ...FCA is not going to copy ford, because Pentastar was designed from day one as modular engine, for direct injection, MultiAir and turbo application and FCA with Ferrari and Maserati has more expertise in turbo, than Ford.

Really five years later still nothing..oh right Maserati had to use the block but it was heavily re worked. We all see what FIAT builds...garbage that does not last!

BY RAM ...
Ecoboost is not really ecoboost by any stretch of the imagination. 2.7 ecoboost is MPG disaster. 20 years old 5.4 triton has better mileage. 3.5 is barely on pair with any V8.

Sure beats a Hemi 0 to 60 and out tows it...oh wait until they plug that 10 spd behind it..... Fiat will be even further behind.

BY RAM ....I might buy Power Wagon with 6.4 V8 HEMI for my next truck anyway, so I don't really care about your silly attacks.

Yeah buy what you want and don't let common sense interfere. I would make that purchase soon as there might not be a Powerwagon or Ram if Fiat keeps doing what their doing.

Nothing better then getting a bloated tall truck that fails roof crash tests.... be careful fuel prices are going up and we all know 11-12 mpg Powerwagons just love themselves fuel. Although I hear they get really good gas mileage for five months out of the year waiting to get service done at the dealer.

@canadianthoughts

You are really angry unhappy person for no reason.
Why don't you enjoy your ford and let me enjoy my RAM, which has no problems ?
Did you crash ford with defective master cylinder already ? I don't have any other explanation for this behavior you present in here. That's not what happy ford customer is acting like.

BY RAM ....You are really angry unhappy person for no reason.
Why don't you enjoy your ford and let me enjoy my RAM, which has no problems ?
Did you crash ford with defective master cylinder already ? I don't have any other explanation for this behavior you present in here. That's not what happy ford customer is acting like.

I'm the happiest person in the world the moment we rid ourselves of Four Ram trucks... unreliable garbage! we never ever have to deal with the worst customer service in the auto-world again! Fiat/RAM dealers will give a hundred excuses why they can't completed the recall...it's always on order....or they try to pass the buck to avoid warranty... did you get all your scheduled service? Ugh the history is right infront of you on your computer screen Fiat Dolt! are you sure you just ran pump diesel in the truck... no Einstein I drilled a hole in my backyard and hit oil...I have been refining crude in my garage for my truck.... Fiat/ Ram biggest idiots around!

Fiat /Ram will be gone soon and your lies and misrepresentation of the facts indicate you are employed by them...no serious owner a Ram would be so defensive.

watch this video... tow test HD trucks...is the Ram going to blow an engine, tranny or rear end?

http://www.tfltruck.com/2016/04/which-truck-should-i-get-to-safely-tow-a-5th-wheel-trailer-ask-tfltruck/

OH Ford Kicks it again and wins with more weight...bazinga!

You are really acting like unsecured unhappy person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grD49xgLOOM&nohtml5=False

Ecodiesel... more problems... 16,000 kms and numerous service visits... life of the Ram Owner

Running on fumes: owners of certain Ram 1500 Ecodiesels say trucks are making them sick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spVbuVhgbdw&nohtml5=False

game changing as now our customers get respiratory problems and cancer

That was fixed 2 years ago . We got it . You know to use Google for RAM issues . Try next step. Use google for Ford issues. It will keep you busy for a while. LOL.

papa jim, If you type his name into the name field, the post won't go through. Sources say his name was banned a few weeks ago. He did this to other people and now it has happened to him.

Running on fumes: owners of certain Ram 1500 Ecodiesels say trucks are making them sick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spVbuVhgbdw&nohtml5=False

like all recalls Ram has not completely addressed the issue...check the Ram complaint boards...i mean message boards...lol

Ram owners are stating this.


watch this video... do you want this Diesel...listen carefully to an owner explain what is being sucked back into the diesel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grD49xgLOOM&nohtml5=False

test results are in F150 is the best and RAM FAILED...looks like Ram is the most unsafe truck on the road.

I know. USA engineers failed. FIAT engineers needs to step up for next major upgrade in 2017.



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