Spied: 2017 Ram Power Wagon Tow Testing

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Our spy shooters caught the 2017 Ram 2500 Power Wagon Laramie during high-altitude tow testing in the Rocky Mountains without its trademark macho graphics package.

Given the size and shape and amount of flex in the dual-wheel box trailer, we'd estimate the load to be about 8,000 or 9,000 pounds, and a good test for the Hemi Power Wagon on the steep, high-altitude Colorado grades.

As you can see, this isn't so much a traditional spy photo gallery, complete with camouflage graphics, as it is about tow testing the 6.4-liter V-8 Hemi to its limits. Shown at the 2016 Chicago Auto Show, the brawny Power Wagon is getting a new look that brings it more in line with the light-duty Ram 1500 Rebel. The 2017 Power Wagon will even offer seats imprinted with a tire-tread pattern just like the Rebel.

The 2017 Power Wagon lineup will include a fully loaded Laramie (pictured) as well as a new, less expensive and more basic Tradesman Power Wagon. Expect 2017 Power Wagons to make it to dealerships later this fall.

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Baddest truck on the road. If they'd get it a fuel economy bump, it would be the most practical all-around vehicle money could buy.

what is the unloaded fuel economy?

Where did they get that grill from? LMC?

This will be my next truck.

HIDEOUS STYLING.
MORE RECALLS THAN A BINGO GAME FOR THE DEAF.
BEND OVER.
RAM!

8,000 a 9,000 lbs? That's all? It's a 2500 right?

@Woopud That's similar towing to what a TRD Pro Tundra can handle, I know the Power Wagon is an offroad truck, but still pretty sad. The old Raptor had a max towing of 8k.

Mean looking truck but still need a diesel.

This will be my next truck.

Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Jun 22, 2016 10:04:21 AM

Interestingly enough, I don't remember posting that, must have been the Tequila I pour into my morning coffee talking. Anyway, now that i've sobered up, i'm thinking it may have to wait 20 plus years while I try to wear out my current Silverado.

This site is horrible. I read this on Trucktrend's website last week. Why does this take so long to get on here? Meanwhile, we are all subject to Mark Williams' pro Ford articles. Remember, this truck is all about off-road capabilities. The suspension setup is not made for hauling/towing as the normal 2500's are. If you do not like it, don't bash it, just buy a regular 2500 with a 6.7 for less money! There's your capability and durability for less.

It's still and will always be a Dodge. Raptor is the most awesome truck ever devised.

TT paid for the photos and righ to use them first. We already saw the new grille on the Power Wagon at the Chi Auto Show so it doesn't make sense to pay more to see photos with some chrome.

Reason that some truck news get reported later is because Ford has to approve the story first! LOL

Just about anytime I am up in the mountains I see some kind of vehicle testing. I think they all end up staging at Silverthorn....

@woopud

That's a estimation of the trailer. According to the Ram site the max tow is 10,030 pounds. It decreases with options and higher grades, so given that this is a Laramie mule probably decked out with every single option, a net payload of 8,000 or 9,000 pounds sounds about right.

http://www.ramtrucks.com/en/ram_2500/#power_wagon_laramie

This site is horrible. I read this on Trucktrend's website last week. Why does this take so long to get on here?

Posted by: Montands | Jun 22, 2016 11:20:49 AM

There's a time delay because Mike Levine's PR-fluff Ford "articles" are required to stay at the top of the news page as long as possible. News gets posted much faster when they want to bury articles like the Ford brake failure "investigation" (cover-up). You know, the one where Ford didn't do anything to fix a multi-year defect resulting in the brakes failing without warning. Also, the article made no attempt to look at the 2015+ trucks, which use the failure prone brake booster design and has also had brake failure reports.

Heavy duty Rams make the world a better place...


Heavy duty Rams make the world a better place...

Posted by: Clegane | Jun 22, 2016 4:48:10 PM

As they are rolling around town mowing people down because the transmission does not go into park properly.

This is how every 1500/2500 truck should come from the factor for what you pay. Lockers all round, soild front axles, v8 engine, 30plus inch offroad tires, 4.00 plus rear axle, winch, sway bar disconnect, and no dumb air damn. It should come as a option for 3500-5500 trucks.

This is the most truck truck of what's left of what they call a truck/pickup truck end of story!

If you can figure out how to work a gear selector then as I said before but I'm going to add one thing which I should of the first time.

A: read the owner manual.

B: Do not drive it.

C: Lastly let Darwin theory of natural selection take place.

Im not fan of Fiat but the funky grille seems to work here or its just growing on me.

The PW is an impressive offroad HD package that still brings the ability to do some work.

It's kind of funny that they are towing a trailer and the tow mirrors are in their non-towing position. 99% of all ram owners that I've seen don't understand that their mirrors are suppose to be flipped up only when towing. They all love to pull those invisible trailers.

Cars.com and MW will buy the spy photos and post it first if its something newsworthy. This isn't. If Ram was trying to hide something there would be camo. We already saw this truck in Chicago. TT wasted money.

When you focus at the complete truck picture, that grille fits there perfectly.
It remains me a horns in the modern interpretation.
I like it and I am considering to buy this PW. Real steel truck, not a paper specs queen without proper testing.

That grille change was not needed. They fixed something that wasn't broken and now look at it.

Gotta make news to be in the news. Fords always doing something to improve there products so they make the news more. You just cant sit still and do nothing but add different paint and stripes and call them special editions. You gotta work at it and try and play catch up.

@AD - agreed. The "old" grill is much better. I suspect that FCA hopes that by making the Power Wagon look more like the Rebel people will think that the Rebel is a legitimate off-roader.

The Power Wagon in its current guise is just a "heavy half". The only way to give it better off-road manners is to soften its truck capabilities.

I am very curious to see the new Raptor's specs. It won't be too hard for Ford to come close to the Power Wagon's max tow 10,030 Lbs and max payload of 1,510 Lbs.
Even the Colorado can carry 1500 lbs.

I am very curious to see the new Raptor's specs. It won't be too hard for Ford to come close to the Power Wagon's max tow 10,030 Lbs and max payload of 1,510 Lbs.
Even the Colorado can carry 1500 lbs.

Posted by: Lou_BC | Jun 23, 2016 2:41:43 PM

Question is how does it handle the weight?

That Ford tough bed doesn't like heavy weight. lol

I love how my class exclusive five link coil rear handles the weight.

http://www.allpar.com/trucks/ram/2014-heavy-duty.html

"All Ram 2500 Heavy Duty trucks, including the Power Wagon, use a Jeep-like multi-link coil rear suspension system for best-in-class ride and handling. Advantages over leaf springs include better articulation over obstacles, added lateral support, and built-in prevention of unwanted axle rotation, which prevents shuddering over rough surfaces. In addition, driveshaft U-joints have less vibration, there is less unsprung mass (by 40 lb), and there is none of the leaf-springs’ stick-slip friction. An added Bilstein dampener links the top of the rear axle to the frame, providing additional control."
http://www.allpar.com/trucks/ram/power-wagon/index.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDpGHVOtly0

did anybody see the 9000 lb tow test from the GMC Canyon with the 2.8 diesel?
NOT only did it do better than the F-150 with the 5.0 but it got TWICE better MPG's

Poor Sergio, a record 105 million fine, buy back program of vehicles affected & too many recalls to list here is only tip of the iceberg with FCA's challenges to survive;

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/fca-facing-class-action-lawsuit-over-grand-cherokee-shifters/ar-AAhAmJI?ocid=spartandhp

Poor Ford always building crap.

Ford sued over problems with vehicle acceleration!!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/29/ford-classaction-lawsuit/2036677/

Ford Defective 6.0L Engine Class Action Lawsuit!!!

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/1598-ford-defective-60l-engine-class-action-lawsuit/


Ford Fiesta and Focus Transmission Lawsuit Filed After Complaints!!

http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/ford-fiesta-focus-transmission-lawsuit.shtml

Lawsuit filed against Ford’s EcoBoost!!!

http://www.fordf150blog.com/lawsuit-filed-against-fords-ecoboost/

Pop Mechanics: Ram beats Ford, Chevy

by David Zatz on 2016-04-14


Ram won the 2016 Popular Mechanics Automotive Excellence Awards for full-size pickups, with the magazine finding that the Ram 1500, 2500 and 3500 had the best combination of technology, performance, and value.

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The editors wrote, “The Ram is the only pickup with a ZF-designed eight-speed automatic transmission, a device so manifestly excellent that Rolls-Royce and Range Rover put the same in their cars, too. That transmission can be bolted to a satisfying 305-hp V-6, a beastly HEMI® V-8, or a 3.0-liter diesel, the only small diesel you can get in a full-size truck.”

Mentioned in this article...
•2014-2016 Ram heavy duty pickups: 2500, 3500
•2015-2016 Ram Laramie Limited: fancier pickups
•2016 Ram 1500 (and the 2018, too)

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Consumer Reports: Ram is best half-ton pickup

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FCA needs to focus on how to build a proper shifter.

Enough SAID!!

Ford recall: Your car could roll away even if it’s parked!

http://fox6now.com/2014/08/14/ford-recall-your-car-could-roll-away-even-if-its-parked/

I think the Ford camp has enough to worry about. Pull the board out of your own eye before you worry about a splinter in your neighbors. lol


FCA needs to focus on how to build a proper shifter.

Enough SAID!!

Posted by: Frank | Jun 24, 2016 3:25:46 PM

Shifter works great. Just have to hold it forward and wait a 1/2 second or less for it to engage. DUH! Even says park on the handle and dash. operator error.

Shifter works great. Just have to hold it forward and wait a 1/2 second or less for it to engage. DUH! Even says park on the handle and dash. operator error.
Posted by: HEMI V8 | Jun 24, 2016 4:54:36 PM

Your disregard & respect for those injured/killed by FCA's poor designs just shows you are at the same IQ level as your buddies GMSRNOTGREAT/johnny doepy tag team with GOVT motors ignition switch fiasco that killed/injured many more...

Your disregard & respect for those injured/killed by FCA's poor designs just shows you are at the same IQ level as your buddies GMSRNOTGREAT/johnny doepy tag team with GOVT motors ignition switch fiasco that killed/injured many more...

Posted by: Lionel | Jun 24, 2016 6:22:35 PM

Ford's defects have killed a lot more than the ignition switch. Basic math skills are required to know that, so it's not your fault.


GOVT motors ignition switch fiasco that killed/injured many more...

Posted by: Lionel | Jun 24, 2016 6:22:35 PM

Whole different set of circumstances.

ALL GUTS

ALL GLORY

ALL BEST IN CLASS ]

2017 Ram 2500 Power Wagon Laramie

Stay thirsty.

You can lead a horse to the water trough but you cant force them to drink it.

Stay thirsty,

new titan will compete against this exact truck. same payload but you get the cummins you always wanted. lockers will be an option soon on Nissan. ram should put the v8 cummins in this pw! they already use the aisin.

I have to say as far as the new titan goes, no thanks! If I was in the market for a HD truck, with a diesel, I would without question buy any one of the three domestic HD truck out there, with either of the diesel engines. Plus you can get either of them for LESS money! In the Ram HD, you can still buy one with the diesel and manual trans.!!! with 4x4, and lots more capacity and power for less money! Then you will have a real HD truck, with coil spring suspension all around, less weight is some cases, and a lot better dealer network with the experience with their product, and time proven mile after mile! Last but not least, you can actually go down to any Ford, Chevy/GMC or Ram dealer and ORDER exactly what you want, try that at any Nissan dealer, the last time I tried I was almost laughed off the lot!

Every vehicle has an auxiliary brake to be used when PARKING and it is called a PARKING BRAKE.
It is sad that people who are 1) too clueless to properly operate an electronic shifter, 2) too lazy to use the PARKING BRAKE when placing a vehicle in PARK are going to force the Government to regulate yet another aspect of products.
This isn't a FCA issue, it is a "too stupid to operate a complicate machine" issue.



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