Best-Selling Pickup Trucks: November 2016

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With total automotive sales down for the last three straight months, the industry is poised for a small turnaround, thanks in large part to the long Thanksgiving weekend and a wide selection of Black Friday specials. In fact, some industry experts are predicting this could be the biggest November sales month in 15 years, with a huge chunk of that gain centered in the full-size and mid-size pickup trucks segments.

Most of the big pickup sales winners for November were the usual suspects. The mid-size segment gained more ground with the Chevrolet Colorado, GMC Canyon and Toyota Tacoma making big jumps over November 2015. And the Honda Ridgeline outsold the Canyon in November. But the biggest winner in monthly and year-to-date sales so far was the Nissan Titan, which now has a full pipeline of full-size trucks (both the half-ton and the XD) heading to dealerships. The other big full-size pickup sales news is Ford experiencing a more than 10 percent gain over November 2015 sales — that's big improvement over October's small monthly gain.

Expect the race for year-end supremacy to get more aggressive in the full-size pickup segment, as low fuel prices, a relatively steady economy and one final incentive push during the December holidays continue to lure customers to dealer lots. By year's end, it's possible the industry will set an all-time record of more than 17.4 million units sold, with an approximate 60/40 split between trucks — pickups, vans, crossovers and SUVs — and passenger cars. We'll know more by Jan. 4, when December 2016 sales will be reported.

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PUTC November 2016 Sales Chart

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Wouldn't gm be losing profits though if all their customers are switching to mid size instead of full size trucks?

Posted by: Gasser V8 | Dec 1, 2016 10:20:39 PM

Who said they are losing money ? GM Clearly saw how the market is changing and they were the first of the big 3 to react. Ford has had to use extreme measures like idling plants and offering huge incentives and financing options to try and convince the buying public they need a full size and not a mid size. Check out Fords last quarterly earnings reports to see how they are struggling to adapt to a changing truck market.

http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2016/07/28/fords-second-quarter-earnings-fall/87625068/

http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2016/10/27/ford-earnings-fall-1-billion-q3/92787426/

GM sold a total of 851,689 trucks this year so far. Ford has sold a total of 746,704 ( 150-750) trucks so far this year. Gm has 8 trucks Ford has 7, you can take the Colorado away from the GM numbers and GM would of still outsold Ford by 5,691 trucks.

Who said they are losing money ? GM Clearly saw how the market is changing and they were the first of the big 3 to react. Ford has had to use extreme measures like idling plants and offering huge incentives and financing options to try and convince the buying public they need a full size and not a mid size. Check out Fords last quarterly earnings reports to see how they are struggling to adapt to a changing truck market.

I don't remember anyone saying they were losing money, I said wouldn't they lose money. And apparently whatever ford is doing must be working because they're sales have been positive for awhile now. And I don't think they're gonna persuade anyone to buy something they dont want, probably if ford offered a midsize then they would see similar full size to midsize ratio as GM.

I love how you guys now add in all the small car trucks to help make GM look good, maybe you also add the toy gm truck sold at walmart, maybe that will help too hahahahahaha
Posted by: Nitro | Dec 2, 2016 7:15:33 AM

Yet we should be ok with Ford counting Transit vans as pickup trucks? The Colorado is at least an actual pickup truck.

I love how you guys now add in all the small car trucks to help make GM look good, maybe you also add the toy gm truck sold at walmart, maybe that will help too hahahahahaha
Posted by: Nitro | Dec 2, 2016 7:15:33 AM------------------GM sold a total of 851,689 trucks this year so far. Ford has sold a total of 746,704 ( 150-750) trucks so far this year. Gm has 8 trucks Ford has 7, you can take the Colorado away from the GM numbers and GM would of still outsold Ford by 5,691 trucks.


Yet we should be ok with Ford counting Transit vans as pickup trucks? The Colorado is at least an actual pickup truck.

Posted by: Frank's Brother | Dec 2, 2016 4:15:00 PM----------------Ford does not count the Transit in there truck numbers-------------http://fordauthority.com/2016/12/ford-motor-company-sales-numbers-figures-results-november-2016/ -------------------------Sales Results - November 2016 - USA - Ford


MODEL

NOV 2016 / NOV 2015

NOVEMBER 2016

NOVEMBER 2015

YTD 2016 / YTD 2015

YTD 2016

YTD 2015


C-MAX +5.36% 1,532 1,454 -13.28% 17,650 20,352
E-SERIES +17.80% 4,705 3,994 +5.15% 49,492 47,066
EDGE +32.20% 10,757 8,137 +7.06% 121,897 113,857
ESCAPE +10.60% 23,012 20,807 +0.98% 281,281 278,538
EXPEDITION +74.63% 5,204 2,980 +45.98% 54,576 37,387
EXPLORER +13.90% 17,245 15,141 -3.97% 197,264 205,417
F-SERIES +10.58% 72,089 65,192 +5.49% 733,287 695,143
FIESTA -16.80% 2,847 3,422 -26.06% 45,035 60,908
FLEX +8.36% 1,478 1,364 +9.77% 19,578 17,835
FOCUS -18.38% 9,130 11,186 -17.20% 158,547 191,473
FUSION -9.72% 17,560 19,451 -10.16% 246,708 274,594
HEAVY TRUCKS +25.19% 1,133 905 +58.89% 13,417 8,444
MUSTANG -14.96% 6,196 7,286 -12.97% 98,868 113,607
POLICE INTERCEPTOR SEDAN +20.80% 848 702 -2.08% 8,806 8,993
POLICE INTERCEPTOR UTILITY +53.84% 2,383 1,549 +32.57% 29,386 22,167
TAURUS -22.49% 1,926 2,485 -12.88% 31,191 35,801
TRANSIT -23.01% 7,379 9,584 +23.95% 130,188 105,030
TRANSIT CONNECT -35.78% 2,721 4,237 -17.47% 38,739 46,941


Read more: http://fordauthority.com/2016/12/ford-motor-company-sales-numbers-figures-results-november-2016/#ixzz4RiudNhkc

Ford F-series 733,287
VS
Chevy S-series 520,604
GMC S-series 198,390
Total is 718,990

Ford is the winner by 14,297

We can add truck and van sales together. All GM trucks (851,689) plus vans (76,535) =928,224.. All Ford trucks (746,704) plus vans (168,927) = 915,631. GM still out sold Ford so far this year by 12,613 units.

Add the 6,290 commercial trucks GM sold (6,290) this year and there lead goes up to 18,903 more units sold.

http://www.gm.com/content/dam/gm/mol/docs/Deliveries-November-2016.pdf

Add total company sales all vehicles GM 2,723,667. total company sales all vehicles Ford/Lincoln 2,374,843. GM out sold Ford so far this year by 348,824 units.

Hahaha this PUTC is WACK!!!

http://www.autonews.com/article/20161114/OEM11/161119934/ram-owners-file-suit-accusing-fca-of-emissions-cheating

More FCA scandal. I hope they don't test the 2.8 Duramax

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161201005646/en/Hagens-Berman-Consumers-Sue-Fiat-Chrysler-Bosch

And the nail in the FCA coffin

GM cannot give there trucks away fast enough to keep up with anyone, selling new pickups at 20% off price wow here they go again back in the tolet

This is not good!
Ram 1500 and Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel Lawsuit Filed

By David A. Wood, CarComplaints.com

Posted in News

December 1, 2016 — A Ram 1500 and Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel lawsuit has been filed in California alleging the EcoDiesel trucks and SUVs contain concealed emissions "defeat devices" to hide nitrogen oxide emissions levels 10 times above legal limits.

The proposed class-action lawsuit targets about 150,000 model year 2014-2016 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel and 2014-2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel vehicles that allegedly cost $4,700 more than normal because of "clean" emissions technology.

In addition to charges against Fiat Chrysler (FCA US), the EcoDiesel lawsuit claims parts manufacturer Bosch is in cahoots with Chrysler, in violation of the RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) Act.

Plaintiff Jose Chavez says he purchased a new 2016 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel from an authorized FCA dealer in Richmond, California, a vehicle he still owns. Chavez says he didn't know the truck was equipped with an emissions defeat device that would cost him out-of-pocket money, future attempted repairs and a diminished resale value.

Believing the EcoDiesel was a "clean diesel" truck, the plaintiff claims Chrysler should have admitted the emissions controls intentionally manipulate nitrogen oxide emissions.

According to the emissions lawsuit, automakers have struggled to manufacture diesel engines that have good fuel economy and high performance while having cleaner emissions. Removing nitrogen oxide emissions from untreated diesel exhaust isn't easy, something that has caused the use of catalysts. However, FCA's answer was to create the EcoDiesel engine.

EcoDiesel technology treats emissions after the byproducts of the diesel fuel leave the engine by using a diesel oxidation catalyst, diesel particulate filter and selective catalyst reduction. According to the lawsuit, when the EcoDiesel technology is in operation the fuel economy is compromised.

Based on court documents, the only way the Ram 1500 EcoDiesel trucks can achieve advertised fuel economy, towing power and performance is to intentionally turn off emissions treatment when the truck is on the road.

The trucks and SUVs allegedly emit far more pollutants than gasoline-fueled vehicles and may be considered "clean diesels" in very limited circumstances.

The EcoDiesel lawsuit says that from at least 2005 to 2015, Bosch and unnamed Bosch employees knew they were creating and marketing illegal defeat devices specifically designed to evade U.S. emissions requirements.

The plaintiff says in addition to the Ram 1500 and Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel vehicles, Bosch created the same type of device for Volkswagen that caused 11 million VW vehicles worldwide to emit illegal nitrogen oxide emissions.

Just as Volkswagen did for years, FCA allegedly used marketing to sell Ram 1500 and Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel vehicles allegedly good for the environment. The plaintiff says the extra cost for this "clean diesel" technology adds about $4,500 to the typical cost of a 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee, a lot of money to pay for an SUV that Chrysler advertises as having no nitrogen oxide emissions that exit the tailpipe.

However, although the nitrogen oxide emissions standard is 50 mg/mile for city driving, the Ram 1500 allegedly emits an average of 159 mg/mile and a maximum of 1,283 on flat roads. In addition, the Ram 1500 emits 222 mg/mile of nitrogen oxides on average and a maximum of 1,859 mg/mile

Attorneys say highway driving tests show the average nitrogen oxide emissions are 232 mg/mile and a maximum of 1,615 mg/mile compared to the 70 mg/mile standard. Highway driving on hills shows the nitrogen oxide numbers are 353 mg/mile and 3,240 mg/mile.

The plaintiff also claims testing shows the defeat device is triggered by ambient temperatures above 95 F and below 40-50 F and nitrogen oxide emissions increase by a factor of 10 when above or below these temperatures. Testing also revealed the presence of a defeat device when ascending hills, as the emission control system appears to be significantly diminished after a short period of steady driving on hills.

In addition to accusations of RICO Act violations against FCA and Bosch, Chrysler is accused of committing fraudulent concealment, false advertising and violating consumer rights laws.

The Ram 1500 and Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California - Jose Chavez, et al, v. FCA US LLC, Robert Bosch GMBH, and Robert Bosch LLC.

The plaintiff is represented by Hagens Berman.

Fiat Chrysler was sued a few weeks ago over alleged emissions violations, but that lawsuit involves Dodge Ram trucks equipped with Cummins diesel engines that allegedly emit nitrogen oxide emissions up to 14 times above legal limits.

CarComplaints.com has complaints from owners of Jeep Grand Cherokee SUVs and Ram 1500 trucks.

GM cannot give there trucks away fast enough to keep up with anyone, selling new pickups at 20% off price wow here they go again back in the tolet
Posted by: JJF | Dec 2, 2016 6:39:46 PM
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You'd be dumb to not get 20% off any brand of half-ton right now. The Ford dealer near me has been offering 20% off since this summer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml7nIJ0uXzw

Here's another dealer offering 25% off since April:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRmnd9XdCjg

Mainland Ford is offering 30% off!!!!

http://www.mainlandford.com/30-off/

I guess Ford is circling the toilet bowl too huh. Especially since they spent billions to upgrade their plants for that military grade failure.

Dave Smith Ford has the deal for YOU!

Save 30% off a 2016 F-150 today!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUSLRPmXdKo

Hahaha I guess that's how Ford is going to keep their sales numbers up huh?

ttp://www.autonews.com/article/20161114/OEM11/161119934/ram-owners-file-suit-accusing-fca-of-emissions-cheating

More FCA scandal. I hope they don't test the 2.8 Duramax

Posted by: Lionel | Dec 2, 2016 5:58:37 PM

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161201005646/en/Hagens-Berman-Consumers-Sue-Fiat-Chrysler-Bosch

And the nail in the FCA coffin

Posted by: BRONCO2020 | Dec 2, 2016 6:01:36 PM

Hey you two, what are you getting each other for ChrIstmas?

Wow who isn't suing FCA these days?

@ FORDSRSOFEMININE aka GMSSUCKS/johnny doeby;

I'm getting myself a 2017 Raptor that will squash anything shaky cheby/GMC can only dream off...HAHAHAHAHA~!~!

I'm getting myself a 2017 Raptor that will squash anything shaky cheby/GMC can only dream off...HAHAHAHAHA~!~!

Posted by: Lionel | Dec 2, 2016 9:38:50 PM

Don't get yourself all bent up over it.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=bent+raptor+frame&client=tablet-android-bell-ca&prmd=ivsn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwivlYKPmtfQAhUm6oMKHcsLDZUQ_AUIBygB&biw=768&bih=1024#imgrc=hzZZv5aakFLZQM%3A

@Lionel
Don't forget you've got yourself a Ranger and went through the 3 feet deep river already. It would be a downgrade for you to get a Ruptor . LOL.


Add total company sales all vehicles GM 2,723,667. total company sales all vehicles Ford/Lincoln 2,374,843. GM out sold Ford so far this year by 348,824 units.

Posted by: heyyouguys | Dec 2, 2016 5:25:18 PM

Hey, stopping hitting those FORD fan boys over the head with statistics and facts. They only acknowledge Ford's ads that misleadingly says they are #1.

@Lionel
Don't forget you've got yourself a Ranger and went through the 3 feet deep river already. It would be a downgrade for you to get a Ruptor . LOL.

Posted by: RAM | Dec 2, 2016 11:39:50 PM

What are you laughing at Ram clown, FCA has been cheating for years now. Safety recalls, not reporting accident, injury and death data from their own junk. Not counting sales properly aka fudging numbers, and now all their Diesel engine emissions. Don't forget the lawsuit between FCA and Cummins. Ford is looking pretty good now isn't that it.

Add total company sales all vehicles GM 2,723,667. total company sales all vehicles Ford/Lincoln 2,374,843. GM out sold Ford so far this year by 348,824 units.


Posted by: heyyouguys | Dec 2, 2016 5:25:18 PM

That is interesting information but only a little slice of the picture. What is the cost per vehicle? What is corporate cost for all expenses? How much profit per vehicle is there after all bills are paid? How much is GM needing to sav to update their plants to catch up to the current updated Ford plants that they already spent money on and is currently affecting their profit margin.

At least the fca scandal won't kill anyone like GMs ignition switch scandal. Lol

At least the fca scandal won't kill anyone like GMs ignition switch scandal. Lol

Just sayin they all have their scandals and I'd take an emissions scandal over a safety scandal any day. Lol

What are you laughing at Ram clown, FCA has been cheating for years now. Safety recalls, not reporting accident, injury and death data from their own junk. Not counting sales properly aka fudging numbers, and now all their Diesel engine emissions. Don't forget the lawsuit between FCA and Cummins. Ford is looking pretty good now isn't that it.

Posted by: LAMO | Dec 3, 2016 7:09:18 AM

That is interesting information but only a little slice of the picture. What is the cost per vehicle? What is corporate cost for all expenses? How much profit per vehicle is there after all bills are paid? How much is GM needing to sav to update their plants to catch up to the current updated Ford plants that they already spent money on and is currently affecting their profit margin.

Posted by: BOBBY | Dec 3, 2016 7:13:47 AM

You two get a room.

The more some of you rip on the Tacoma seems to show more sales, enjoy...

I'd be worried if I were the competition and they do come out with the Ranger


@Nitro

Even if Ford--after plenty of meditation on the subject--finally decides to enter the small truck market they won't call it a Ranger.

Pinto maybe, Ranger no.

For whatever reason Ford has determined that they would rather let GM, Nissan and Toyota fight it out with their smaller trucks than enter the North American market on only be an also ran. With gasoline prices at less than 2 dollars per gallon the reason to sell a less capable truck keeps getting less attractive.

And now that Honda re-enterred that market with the Gen 2 Ridgeline, no chance.

@ papa jim; what rubbish are you talking about?! The US version of the new mid-sizer is already in the works & Ford really won't need to do much more as the current global Ranger platform (over 6 yrs old now) is still rated better by critics more than any other global mid-sizer out there including the latest offerings from Mitsubishi, GOVT motors Colorado, Isuzu D-Max, Nissan Navara & even the current global leader in sales; Toy makers HILUX.

So whatever the US version will be called (F-100 or whatever), there is no doubt Ford will make sure it will wipe the floor (again) with all the current US midsizer's & retake back their crown from Toy maker's Tacoma.

New ranger equals more fleet sales. Local napa needs a new truck. Neighbors utility locating company been purchasing gm midsize and F150 to replace old Rangers. Lionel sales are only a small part, revenue is the large part. Ford pushes for fleet, Mark Fields already stated that. Nothing against them I have had several. Seems retarded to put so much effort to back any manufacturer.

When drivers switch from a front wheel drive car or SUV to a rear wheel drive pickup truck they have to learn to drive again.
Instead of "over-steer" on a front wheel drive a rear wheel truck can "under-steer" cause the rear is lighter and they may not know how to recover from an out of control skid.
You CANNOT drive a truck and expect it to handle the same way as a front wheel drive car.
Also a truck, especially a higher 4x4 truck has a smaller steering radius and this is designed for safety.
I have been driving trucks before front wheel drive was invented and I also owned and still own a front wheel drive car and I drive them different ways knowing different traction and handling , such as wet and slippery roads and tight hair pin curves.
I am making a point of this because we all know too many people are buying a pickup for the first time when they become comfortable driving front wheel drive cars and they simply can't drive a truck.

Yes Lionel, your ranger went through the 3 feet deep river already and everyone was scared to follow you, so ranger is ahead of the game and you are the only hero in here who think , that 3 " means 3 ' LOL. You better buy a ruptor , because ranger is too expensive for you, but you can get a good down payment, if you trade in your Sonata , if you really play your cards at the ford dealer these days. LOL.

@Lionel

I predict that Ford will kill the Ranger you are making reference to. It is an outdated platform.

Instead will bring an all electric Ford Focus to Brazil, South Africa and Mid East countries.

Will rename the 2018 F150 XL (base model) the Ranger. You heard it here first!

Didn't ford strike up a contract with the Feds to build vehicles for the in exchange for a loan?

Drove past locating company this AM, apparently really likes the Frontier too.

@ papa jim - if only we could place a bet on your erroneous claim;...another BAFO I guess or is it the one & same?!

If you want to see what manufacturer is kicking butt in 2017, take a look at Year over Year stock value of GM, Ford and FCA. These are the only numbers that matter.

Ford has the opportunity to sell the Bronco and Ranger in aluminum and sweep the field clean of all the pretenders
That would be a coup

@Lionel

I repeat:

With gasoline prices at less than 2 dollars per gallon the reason to sell a less capable truck keeps getting less attractive.

And now that Honda re-enterred that market with the Gen 2 Ridgeline, no chance. Ford does not need another Edsel.

The Ranger made sense back in 1980 when people were looking for a break from high gas prices and the automakers could use the same components from their small sedans to make small trucks that would compete with the little Asian models.

GM has proven that midsize trucks are almost as expensive to build today, as their half ton models. What's the advantage? As the Suburban and the Silverado have proven, people want utility & comfort over fuel economy.

To those who say that GM outsold Ford need to take this into consideration- lumping in the Colorado and Canyon pickups with the GM full size pickups is like lumping sales of a small car in with a muscle car. The Colorado/ Canyon trucks are mid-sized and have smaller engines. Also saying "Ford trucks are like McDonalds burgers" obviously don't realize that the F-series have always had stronger frames, a more solid ride, better handling and have a higher resale value than GM which is why they are the number one selling pickup. And by the way... wait until the Ford Ranger returns to North America!

By the way, I find Fords last longer than Chevy and GMC. Just saying...

@Somewhere in Canada

So we are supposed to ignore common arithmetic so you can feel better about Ford being in second place.

Add up the numbers. GM sold more trucks.

Next?

You guys all love ford. Well soak in the fact that the new duramax has just outdone your powerjoke. The powerjoke cant do it near as easy and fast as the chevy can



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