November 2016 Pickup Sales Breakdown

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The end of the year is just around the corner and thanks in large part to pickup truck sales, it looks like 2016 will be one of the biggest years on record for the auto industry.

Smaller pickups continued to sell well in November, while both Ford and GMC posted strong monthly numbers compared to November 2015. By year end, GM will have sold almost 1 million pickups, thanks in large part to its mid-size, half-ton and heavy-duty pickup strategy as well as the fact that two of its brands — Chevrolet and GMC — sell similar pickups.

We'll have to wait and see if vehicles such as like the mid-size Chevrolet Colorado, Nissan Frontier and Honda Ridgeline can continue their record-breaking pace. Additionally, truckmakers such as Ram and Nissan seem poised to reach new heights. The year 2017 should be interesting.

 

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GM is happy with second place.

Posted by: Gregory Stevens | Dec 9, 2016 6:43:40 PM

Amen..for over 40 yrs & counting :-)

When you add up all the GM trucks sold so far this year and then add up all the FORD trucks sold, GM has sold 118,402 more trucks. That's not even close. GM, #1 selling brand of trucks.

Awesome job being #1 GM!

Good job GM you smoked Ford once again in sales!

Picking and buying the Ford F Series is a safe pick.

Think about it ! The majority buying one can't be wrong
I mean if it was such a terrible truck they wouldn't lead in sales.
Right?

yea, yea, I know Ford does advertise more and they have better discounts but not all people are influenced by that.

Look at how Hillary lost, they marketed her like crazy and she still lost so that proves people are not in the bag with the heavy marketing of Ford F Series

people buy one as a safe and sure pick

Personally, still depending on whether the Donald is confirmed or not, I expect to see oil prices leap over the next four years to record highs. I also expect to see another recession... perhaps so deep as to be called a Depression. I honestly hope I'm wrong but I believe we're about to see for ourselves just how effective an Autocracy is in governing a country.

Fiat Chrysler picks CES, not Detroit auto show, for reveals All because they suck and are teetering on another bankruptcy

This IMHO is further proof of how near FCA is to Bankruptcy again. They have stolen all the Profits for stupid worthless Alfa and to shore up Fiat. A dead product line that should have stayed in the history books and one that needs to die due to poor quality products that most informed buyers stay away from.

They can show off what ever EV product they want, but I doubt we will see it in production any time soon.

Excuses, excuses excuses, the next company to die, get broken up and transform probably to mostly Chinese control.

http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2016/12/08/fiat-chrysler-skips-detroit-auto-show-reveals-picks-ces-instead/95122498/

@ GM is a brand.
Posted by: johnny doe | Dec 9, 2016 10:08:26 PM

You're either thick as a brick or blinded by loyalty; GM is not a brand but a cooperation that owns a few brands including their 2 x brands of shaky trucks...get out of theat park trailer & go back to take night classes to learn English & math - a recap;

If you continue to follow your usual screwed up math of 2+2 brands = 1 brand (shaky Cheby/GMC's fullsize/half-size trucks), then I have no hope for you old man.

Ford's FULLSIZE trucks of 1 x BRAND called F-series outsold combined two shaky brand's of shake n' bake GOVT motors (shaky cheby & GMC) by almost 15 000 units...now that's kicking butt.

Watch & see & get ready to eat crow again, the gab will only increase in 2017-18 with these on full production; F-series w/10 speed F-150's, new Raptors & HD's. And don't hold your breath there, 2019-20 will be further full domination & slaughter by Ford with the new F-150 diesel power plants, F-100/Ranger mid-sizers & of course the long awaited return of the one & only Bronco.

RoadWhale™ - building all those walls are an interesting stimulate the economy/make work project.

@Roadwhale

Paraphrasing here: Some smart guy once said that it’s crazy to keep making the same mistakes and hope for a different result. It’s another way of saying “when you’re in a hole, stop digging.”

Doctors used to tell their patients to get some fresh air and sunshine. There’s no scientific basis for that prescription but it seems to help people feel better. In your case try reading the National Review (available online) and/or some of Mark Steyn’s commentaries. You might feel better, who knows, but at least you’ll be well informed.

Sorry, I meant Consumer Reports....
For 2017, ConsumerReports recommends solely the Ford F-150. Based on thousands of consumer responses, the F-150 had the best reliability and overall performance compared to other brands on the market. Because their survey is based on thousands of responses, I'll not be swayed by a minority of GM or Ram nay-Sayers. I had a 1998 F-150 for 16 years and only did brakes, tires, and battery replacements. Not a single problem with that truck. Tried something different the last few years, a Chevy Silverado. Little crap, like instrument display panel, engine nox sensors, went out. Guess what?...my next truck will be a Ford again!

I agree 100% with the above post :-)

@ kemo; everyone on this site is bragging to defend their loyalty to their brand.

My reasons are from direct personal experience dating back to childhood/learnt to drive Dad's '56 F-100, best years as a teenager with his '74 F100 Supercab, '78 Bronco for my 1st V8 experience & later on my own Ford trucks to many to name here.

Fan & no fan, one should ponder why the Ford F-series has being the Number # 1 best selling truck brand for over 40 yrs & best selling vehicle for over 30 yrs...the sheer numbers themselves is just mind boggling - this is not bragging, it's a fact!
So are you implying close to a million US truck buyers per yr were wrong in their choice?

So are you implying close to a million US truck buyers per yr were wrong in their choice?

Posted by: Lionel | Dec 11, 2016 8:02:16 PM

Yes!

@johnny/GMSRGREAT/Sierrra, why do you guys complain, your all the same person anyway?

Fact is, Ford is number 1, chevy second, GMC third, 40 years and counting, get over it

@Nitro,

LMFAO!!!

GM is a brand.


Posted by: johnny doe | Dec 9, 2016 10:08:26 PM

I knew you guys were clueless, but good lord, this is ridiculous.

LMFAO

Just traded my 2016 Tacoma on a new Silverado LTZ. The new Taco engine/tranny combo is horrible. Test drove the LTZ with a 6.2 and an F-150 with the 2.7.

6.2 is hands down a more refined engine. Family like the Silverado interior better as well.

Both the F-150 and the LTZ drove much better than the Tacoma. That thing was pretty crappy....

Fan & no fan, one should ponder why the Ford F-series has being the Number # 1 best selling truck brand for over 40 yrs & best selling vehicle for over 30 yrs...

Posted by: Lionel | Dec 11, 2016 8:02:16 PM

McDonalds sells more hamburgers than any other restaurant in the world... doesn't mean they sell the best hamburger in the world. The Ford brand is obviously the McDonalds of the truck world. Made from cheap materials and just like the Happy Meal toy, Ford needs to load their trucks up with poorly designed gimmicks.

@threerun

Too bad you didn't check out the Frontier. You did not say why you went to the top of the line LTZ but if you like it that's fine.

From a Tacoma to GM's luxo half ton model is a big bump in price, unless you were able to find one of last year's trucks marked down a lot. Even then the Chevy was probably 10K more than the Toyota.

@ HD Ramking; tired of these idiots who constantly compare Ford to MacDonald's; I mean firstly there is a huge difference between buying a cheap meal (mostly for convenience as there are far better fast-food burger outlets) & spending a major investment into a truck of minimum $25-$60 grand in a truck...

When you've figured that out Ramqueen, we can talk again :-)

Congrats Threerun on your choice of pick-up. You mentioned the 6.2 being more refined and I agree. Your family liked the interior more and for good reason. The Chevy interior is more aesthetically pleasing and not as busy as the Ford interior. The Chevy interior is a great place to spend some time and the more refined ride helps you get to your destination comfortably.

Who cares about the interior if you can't do work with it(what trucks were designed for believe it or not). The ecoboob beat the 6.2 hands down in towing due to the ecoboob's flatter torque curve produced from the turbos and the 6.2's transmission not transmitting torque correctly for towing(it constantly shifted during the test). The 6.2 was designed as a sport truck to utilize hp instead of torque whereas the ecoboob was designed with light towing in mind utilizing the flatter torque curve the turbos produce.

Just traded my 2016 Tacoma on a new Silverado LTZ. The new Taco engine/tranny combo is horrible. Test drove the LTZ with a 6.2 and an F-150 with the 2.7.

6.2 is hands down a more refined engine. Family like the Silverado interior better as well.

Both the F-150 and the LTZ drove much better than the Tacoma. That thing was pretty crappy....


Posted by: Threerun | Dec 12, 2016 2:31:43 PM


Fine choice.
In my opinion you picked the best truck, No doubt .

After having abreak for a while I see the site still has many biased and inaccurate comments.

To sum up this article is easy, GM has outsold the competition. A pickup is a pickup irrespective of size.

I would hazard to guess the GM midsize twins are more profitable than their full size 1/2 ton brothers.

If you add all the full size Silverado and Sierra platform related SUVs, GM is hard to beat. You can see why Ford's profits shrunk by half this year. The aluminum pickup's research, design, plant retooling, etc has cost a fortune. Aluminum trucks are a great idea ........... in 20 years or when iron ore becomes depleted.

What is better, a aluminum or steel wheelbarrow? Not much different than a pickup. Ford has even resorted to being a large fleet supplier. This sort of puts it in the Altima, Hyundia, Chrysler 200 sphere.

Ford not wanting to have a superior seller (Ranger) compete with the aluminum trucks is part of Ford's deficient decision making. Ford could be the largest pickup manufacturer.

Ram is slowly losing its edge. I find this a pity. FCA needs cash and fast to keep going. Ram needs a real change. It also will need a midsize other than a tractor like Wrangler pickup.

The Honda is great. The reality is it would most likely be more than enough pickup for most.

GM's midsize twins were constrained by limited production capability.

Nissan needs to push and concentrate on the Frontier. I would think the latest Titan would be Nissan's last foray in the full size arena, why else would they have bounced Diaz? He should of given the Frontier a little more priority, its already developed.

@Willy

Maybe Australia's iron ore is running out, but please keep in mind that iron (FE) is one of the more abundant elements on earth.

Anywhere I travel and see reddish-brown soils I can be assured there's enough oxidized iron in that region to color the top few feet of surface soils.

Re: Ford

I confess to sharing some of your antipathy for its love of all things aluminum, but don't be confused about that company's long term prospects.

Ford is a giant in R&D, electronics, and auto manufacturing whose level of expertise in these fields rivals such giants as Boeing, Airbus, Toyota and Exxon in their respective industries.

Ford will survive, to put it mildly.

Ford will survive, to put it mildly.

Posted by: papa jim | Dec 14, 2016 7:14:26 AM

I agree with your comment for once; Ford's investment in aluminum was a costly affair but it will pay when their new F-series 10-speed trucks/Raptor/HD's sales kick in full production & sales potential. This will carry on Ford's lead for several more years in perfect timing with the release of the new Ranger/F-100 & Bronco which will cement again their dominance.

What do the others have? Nissan will continue to struggle with meek sales for their miscalculation, Toy makers are content with their mild updates of old platforms/engines, RAM recall will continue to struggle to stay alive & shaky GOVT motor's will continue to play catch up to the F-series.

In other words, no one has anything new/ground breaking/game changer in the near future. So it's safe to say the F-series will be the reference leader for at least 3-4 more years :-) Nothing new, they've being doing it for over 40 yrs & counting.

What do the others have? ......This will carry on Ford's lead for several more years in perfect timing with the release of the new Ranger/F-100 & Bronco which will cement again their dominance.

Posted by: Lionel | Dec 14, 2016 12:37:24 PM

Well for one, GM has the midsize twins with exponential growth month after month. Ford is bogged down with only full size trucks to offer while the market is rapidly shifting to midsize trucks. This forces Ford to offer hugh 30% discounts on their trucks to move them.

Secondly, FORD doesn't have a lead, revisit the graphs above and it's clear, GM leads.

@ GMSUCKS; I see the graphs showing Ford's 1 x Brand of full size trucks left shaky GM's 2 x brands of full size trucks in the dust again...by how many?...wait for it;

Almost a whopping 15 000 units!!!...holy cow,,,yikes :-)

It's time for GOVT motors to look for a new strategy or management or both & quit with the brick dropping stunts that only backfired...back to the drawing board & keep following the leader :-))

PapaJim. I would not worry about Australia depletjng its ore depsits. We in the US can buy from Brazil, Russia, Canada and many more.

I never stated or even alluded to Ford going broke. Can you comprehend a statement and make an accurate counter argument?

I see it this way Ford has asked the future US Government to alter CAFE. Why? Is it Ford foresees troubled waters ahead because its investment strategy in future vehicles and technology is half baked?

Example: How much has Ford invested into aluminum trucks? Will the current EcoBoosts be sufficient with the tightening CAFE regulations?

Ford has created some good vehicle tech, but how long lived will it be pertinent? Sooner or later people will realize a steel or aluminum built pickup means little.

In reality the new aluminum F 150 is only several hundred pounds lighter than some of its competition and only offered a 1mpg improvement with the 3.5 EcoBoost. Lots of money spent to get that 1mpg. Billions wasted and requires paying down. Profits lost or money to invest in pertinent tech.

@big al

the auto industry has been very creative in its use of alternative materials and designs during the last 30 years. Have you been asleep?

Lionel,
Ford so far is the only truck manufacturer whining to the next leader of our great nation to ease up on CAFE.

One would think FCA has greater reason to whine.

Toyota and Nissan are better off than Ford. They have more CAFE credits.

I'd say Toyota and Nissan don't want to sell as many large pickups as the Big Three.

Ford will not go broke in the short to medium term, but in 10 to 20 years you need to be brave to predict anything.

@dapper dan wait until the 11 speed transmission that ford and GM are making comes out and GM will beat ford

@ GMSUCKS; I see the graphs showing Ford's 1 x Brand of full size trucks left shaky GM's 2 x brands of full size trucks in the dust again...by how many?...wait for it;

Almost a whopping 15 000 units!!!...holy cow,,,yikes :-)

Posted by: Lionel | Dec 14, 2016 11:00:43 PM

Remove your blue oval framed glasses and check out the "truth" in the graph below.

http://cars.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e201b8d2439341970c-pi

Turns out GM branded trucks has sold well over 100,000 more than FORD brand trucks. Wait for it....wait for it.....Bazinga!

Ford is in the unique and envious position to launch a coup in the midsize class.
Should they introduce a New all Aluminum midsize Ranger/ Bronco combo
I suspect they could clean up like they are doing in the full size segment
But a warning to the wise should they not take advantage of the
F150 tooling to make the Ranger Disaster awaits them in the midsize segment

Remove your blue oval framed glasses and check out the "truth" in the graph below.
http://cars.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e201b8d2439341970c-pi
Turns out GM branded trucks has sold well over 100,000 more than FORD brand trucks. Wait for it....wait for it.....Bazinga!

Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Dec 15, 2016 7:44:48 AM

@ GMSUCKS; put on your square wheel glasses; you need to compare apples w/apples; until Ford has the F-100/Ranger on the market, we can only compare sales of full size trucks for now & Ford is kicking shaky GOVT motor's butt...like always so get use to it...HAHAHAHA!!!

@Big Al,

In case you forgot, CAFE is a mission that was always based on the false premise that the world is running out of oil.

Since the 1970s, we've found oil in damn near every part of the world and today's oil prices are in a very affordable range.

Compared to solar, geothermal, wind and nuclear, fossil fuels (like coal and crude oil) is the SINGLE energy source that makes any sense financially.

Without coal-fired generating capacity all those 1970s hippies in Northern California would have to park their Tesla's and ride the damn bus.

CAFE should just be sh*t-canned so the rest of us can get along with our business and drive the cars/trucks we want.

David,
The Ranger will no be produced with aluminum.

Ford initilly spent $3.5 billion (in 2010 dollars) and part of that investment maximised high tensile steel construction not aluminum.

@David

Willy is confused.

The Ranger, just like all modern vehicles, is very dependent on aluminum alloy and other lightweight materials for a lot of good reasons apart from fuel economy.

Every mid size truck on the market today--correct me if I'm wrong--has an alloy engine block and heads, for example. These are very heavy parts and the use of alloy just makes sense (reduced tooling costs, lighter weight).

Willy probably knows all that but he just forgot.

@papajim
the new ranger will just be a F150 with a short short bed as it will have aluminum and the same size cab but less bed compared to F150 so it will be midsized dispite it being based on a full size so it will win in China as Chinese love big cars and it would be more fuel efficient and also be always V6 unlike old ranger and no diesel or manual so it will be all automatic and no v8 however both ecoboost and regular v6 will be offered it might lose however in the us as americans dont always buy short beds or small trucks
It will not have regular cab but will have a crew cab and extended cab models

Well, 2016 is quickly drawing to an end. Great stuff once again from PUTC. The year to date trucks sales is all but official, GM has that wrapped up.....again. But remember the challenges earlier in the year. Like the towing challenge that the GMC took first place with. Here is the link for a refresher

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2016/01/whats-the-best-light-duty-truck-for-towing-2016-texas-truck-showdown.html.

And what about the midsize pick-up challenge. Well you look at that, the GMC Canyon takes first place

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2016/08/whats-the-best-midsize-pickup-for-2016.html.

Another banner year for the General. First place in full and midsize challenges . That is domination. POor FOrd.

Radar,
I don't think our full size pickups will be the mainstay in the Chinese pickup market. They will be niche products for the rich.

The reason is the Chinese have a dumba$$ 25% import tax on all pickups. More on this later.

Ford has JMC building the Yuhu pickup. It is loosely based on the global Ranger. It looks like a cross between the current Mazda BT50 and the PX Ranger. The Yuhu will run Mitsubishi gas and diesel engines. Ford has used Mitsubishi engines in the past. The 2.6 and this was sold alongside Ford 4 liter V6'es. This is in their global Mazda B Series based trucks.

The 25% tax on US pickups is fair as the US has the same level of taxation on imported pickups. I suppose if we want to maximise the number of pickups we can export we must drop the Chicken Tax. Fair is fair and we can' t whine like Ford does over CAFE. CAFE is another dumb regulation or control like the Chicken Tax.

The chickens are coming home to roost! We might potentially lose money because of our short sightedness.

@wild willy

I'm kind of confused I guess. Does Australia have a Chicken Tax too?

papajim,
I'm not surprised you are confused.

Go back and read some of your comments. Confusing they are.

According to Google I have not found any information showing that Australia has the Chicken Tax. The US does.

Also in the future I will not do Google searches for you.

But my next pickup would be the Honda.

@Wild Willy

I will buy a fully-loaded Ridgeline.



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