My dad had a F-700 years ago. Also, at the same time he was running a GMC 65 series with a 366 engine. Both trucks received the exact type of use with the drivers using either vehicle randomly. ( no one driver was assigned to a specific vehicle).
The Ford engine life (around 20,000 miles) was less than half of the 366 GM engine with life span of 50,000 miles. The Ford engines would expire with a bang. ( it did that with both FORD engines.) The GM engine would start consuming oil around 50,000 miles but was rebuild able. Other than that both vehicles were pretty much equal.

My dad had a F-700 years ago. Also, at the same time he was running a GMC 65 series with a 366 engine. Both trucks received the exact type of use with the drivers using either vehicle randomly. ( no one driver was assigned to a specific vehicle).
The Ford engine life (around 20,000 miles) was less than half of the 366 GM engine with life span of 50,000 miles. The Ford engines would expire with a bang. ( it did that with both FORD engines.) The GM engine would start consuming oil around 50,000 miles but was rebuild able. Other than that both vehicles were pretty much equal.

I guess President Chump will blame Obama for that.

Good news me.

Bad news him.

Elizabeth Warren 2020!

Now that we finally have some one in office who is looking after the tax payer, states are having to watch their pocket book a little closer, as the feds may not give them as much free money(my tax money) anymore.

two stories in the news this week.

Ford is doing a shutdown to avoid excessive dealer inventories, and Chevy is updating a plant to address increasing demand.

Sorry Frank, what did you say? I can't hear you.

Medium Duty Trucks

Ford 12,000!!!!!!!

Chevy 0

Thanks for playing.

@papajim. What plant is chebbie updating for demand? I just read a few days ago their truck sales are fading fast. Even Ram is selling more then chebbie.

Fake news

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-business/us-business/gm-production-boost-to-extend-life-of-oshawa-plant/article26018301/

@Nate... check it out

Whatever

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-business/us-business/gm-production-boost-to-extend-life-of-oshawa-plant/article26018301/

@Nate... check it out
Posted by: papajim | May 5, 2017 9:47:00 PM

@Nate, Check it out. Chevy Equinox. smdh.

@papajim
In other words, lack of demand for Ford Pickups leads to booming inventories and Chevrolet has booming demand for a midsize SUV

Frank the Fordtard is shaking in his little Ford boots. He knows next year Ford will be second place to GM's new medium duty trucks, that's if Ford still has a medium duty truck line running with all the layoffs HAHAHAHA!

Medium Duty Trucks

Ford 12,000!!!!!!!

Chevy 0

Thanks for playing.

Posted by: Frank | May 5, 2017 8:17:38 PM

Wrong! ◾Chevrolet Commercial Truck sales totaled 706 units in just March alone with Low Cab Forward Chevys.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2017/04/general-motors-march-2017-sales-figures-numbers-results-united-states/

http://www.chevrolet.com/low-cab-forward-trucks

Ford only expects to hit 12,000 units a year, GM's doing nearly that with only the Low Cab Forward Chevy. When the other medium duty comes online for GM next year, it will be bye bye Ford, and welcome to second place in medium duty truck sales HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Please oh please run Pocahontas in 2020! hahahaha

Chump will be impeached long before then.

Elizabeth Warren Onward Together!

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@Nate, Check it out. Chevy Equinox. smdh.
Posted by: Ken | May 5, 2017 10:22:34 PM

@Ken @Nate

Silverado begins assembly at this plant in Jan 2018

Apples and oranges. Chevy plans to send built Silverados to Canada to put some parts on after they are already built in an American plant. Doesn't sound like an efficent way to do business. They should finish the truck in the American plant.

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Last fall, one of the key planks in the new four-year deal signed between GM and Unifor was the return of the Chevy Silverado to Oshawa. No firm details were released at the time, however union officials and GM plant employees stated that Oshawa would do the final assembly work on the pickup truck after the vehicles are shipped to Ontario from an American plant.

That idea left some union members scoffing at the new agreement and continuing to question how secure GM’s commitment was to Oshawa.

“I’m not very happy with it,” said Josh Calhoun, a 14-year GM employee, as he prepared to vote on the new labour deal. “What happens if the price of gas goes up? This truck is no sure thing for Oshawa.”

He added that shipping partially-made vehicles to Oshawa isn’t the equivalent to a new product.

“It’s already half-built, it’s not a new vehicle,” said Calhoun. “It’s pretty much already built.”

Matt Lohmann, another 14-year veteran at the Oshawa GM plant, said employees in Durham would only be adding “the guts” to the Silverado.

“It’s pretty much put together already,” said Lohmann, adding that he too was unhappy with the proposed new deal.

https://www.durhamregion.com/news-story/7272846-chevy-silverado-returning-to-oshawa-gm-plant-says-union-president/

Also GM is planning to trim Silverado inventory with a 10 week shutdown. Educate yourself. But if you want to believe it is only to come up with new product and update factories you can keep thinking that. Also remember 3 years ago you guys said you didn't have to update any factories because you had some new fangled tool. The reality is, they are just pricing these trucks way too high. Better to buy a 2 or 3 year old truck for $10k less than pay for a new truck and that is even with the typical $7k off the new truck.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/general-motors/2017/04/12/gm-trim-inventory-weeks-combined-downtime/100378036/

Doesn't sound like an efficent way to do business. They should finish the truck in the American plant.

@Nitro B

Question---are you an efficiency expert? When was the last time you had a job where you get paid for your expertise in that regard?

You can be sure that GM's top people were part of that decision. I am confident that their top manufacturing specialists know more about this than you. If I'm wrong, prove it.

The reality is, they are just pricing these trucks way too high.

@Alex

Are you an expert on pricing? GM sold way more than one million trucks during the last 2 years.

They must be doing something right because they build and sell more trucks than Ford year in and year out.

@papajim, I investigated your claim and you were proven wrong. You were making it sound like Ford was doing a bad job with their trucks. And Chevy was going like gangbusters and the "new" factory was proof.

They are building the Silverado in the same factories. The new factory you were alleging was some great sign of success was just another factory to finish the truck the first factory could have finished if it was properly set up.

And the only reason they are updating is for the new truck which every manuf does everytime there is a new truck. This isn't anything new.

Ford massively updated their factories in 2014. So GM is a few years behind Ford on updates. Also, Ford doesn't need to build F-150's in Canada and Mexico like GM does with Silverado. Ford does it right in the good ole USA.

If you think the Silverado is doing well why don't they ever mention them in the press releases anymore? smh.

sell more trucks than Ford
Posted by: papajim | May 6, 2017 12:31:47 PM

You are fake news! If GM sold more trucks why didn't they mention the Silverado in the year press release? smh.

If I'm wrong, prove it.
Posted by: papajim | May 6, 2017 12:28:38 PM

The reality is, they are just pricing these trucks way too high.

@Alex

Are you an expert on pricing? GM sold way more than one million trucks during the last 2 years.

They must be doing something right because they build and sell more trucks than Ford year in and year out.
Posted by: papajim | May 6, 2017 12:31:47 PM

Exhibit A. You. You bought a used Silverado, and a terribly ill equipped bottom feeder edition from what I hear, because the new truck prices were too high.

Last I heard Ford sells more full-sizes last year but you like the jumble up every vehicle to make it sound like you are doing good business and now you somehow get amnesia when Ford is now selling more trucks overall even without a midsize and you adding your midsizes.

You are the only person on PUTC that will say GM trucks are a better option than a Ford and GM sells more, and even you know you're lying.

Perhaps if GM didn't build a vibrating ugly full-size they could sell more trucks.

Nitro B.
Your only posting parts of the story.

"He was unsure whether the Oshawa plant would be producing the entire vehicle or adding parts to a partially-completed truck shipped to Durham Region from elsewhere.

“We’re still in talks,” said James of the addition of the Silverado."

Bottom line is GM is losing the truck battle as Ram beat Chevy again. People want big full-size crew cabs, but GM insists on being king of the front-hinged double cab as they continue to lose the truck market.

GM got caught overproducing for sales that are now starting to decline. Thus having to slow production. The market is saturated with new vehicle owners and people hold onto them longer. GM is still too big and has too many overlapping products.

In conclusion, bring on the big rebates!

I sure hope gm does a better job this time with their medium duty trucks. They got out of the market last time because no one wanted that garbage they were selling. Ford had their best year for medium duty trucks last year in a very long time.

“We’re still in talks,” said James of the addition of the Silverado."
Posted by: What the heck | May 6, 2017 1:24:42 PM

That's not good either. And the bodies are shipping from From Wayne.

Take note, GM is just putting a little polish on this situation. They aren't making a serious investment. They are taking the bodies from Ford Wayne. Without an investment in the body shop to build trucks, they can pull the plug on Canada whenever they want to dial back capacity.

Leveraging the weak Canadian dollar is about the only thing going on.

Ford had their best year for medium duty trucks last year in a very long time.
Posted by: john | May 6, 2017 2:09:25 PM

Best since 1997.

Nothing changes.

Another month goes by and GM still leads the rest of the industry in trucks with (over 277 thousand sold) over one quarter million sold year to date 2017.

In the meantime the Ford boys smoke some more wacky-weed in mom's basement and dream up a 2017 win for Ford.

Great job GM still the over all truck leader and great job Ram!

Where did everybody go?

@Alex

we are STILL waiting for you to prove it. Take another swing!

@Alex

we are STILL waiting for you to prove it. Take another swing!

@Alex

we are STILL waiting for you to prove it. Take another swing!

@Alex

we are STILL waiting for you to prove it. Take another swing!

@Alex

we are STILL waiting for you to prove it. Take another swing!

@Alex

we are STILL waiting for you to prove it. Take another swing!

@Alex

we are STILL waiting for you to prove it. Take another swing!

@Alex

we are STILL waiting for you to prove it. Take another swing!

@Alex

we are STILL waiting for you to prove it. Take another swing!

@Alex

we are STILL waiting for you to prove it. Take another swing!

@Alex

we are STILL waiting for you to prove it. Take another swing!

@Alex

we are STILL waiting for you to prove it. Take another swing!

@Alex

we are STILL waiting for you to prove it. Take another swing!

@Alex

we are STILL waiting for you to prove it. Take another swing!