The size of that trailer. Haul anything with all those tires. I want one.

That DEF tank is dangerous.

Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) is a non-hazardous solution, which is 32.5% urea and 67.5% de-ionized water. DEF is sprayed into the exhaust stream of diesel vehicles to break down dangerous NOx emissions into harmless nitrogen and water.

What's dangerous about that ?

That DEF tank is dangerous.

Posted by: Greg | Jul 10, 2017 2:59:58 PM

Im going to go out on a limb and disagree judging by the fact that it is:
A) Still in that exact location after almost a decade
and
B ) nobody talks about outside of all the "oh yeah well my dad's p***s is totally bigger than your dad's" competitions that the PUTC comments section has become

There is more than likely no problem whatsoever with it where it is. It's easily covered almost completely by even the dinkiest set of running boards out on the market if you dont like the way it looks, and if it was causing significant issues/cost to owners due to damage GM would have quietly moved it without saying anything. If it was really bad or "dangerous" as you put it, then we certainly would have heard about it from any of the major 3rd party testing/ratings companies.

While diesels are running cleaner than ever, improvements in emissions systems come at a cost. A case in point is the diesel exhaust fluid (DEF) tank on 2011 and later Chevy pickups. The tank is mounted fairly low on the passenger-side frame rail and hangs down unprotected below the frame.

For street use, this location usually isn’t an issue, but off-road or in a construction environment, the lack of ground clearance might result in damage. As just one example, we spoke with a company that provides mechanical lube services to mining outfits in Northern Nevada, which reported more than a dozen tanks getting punctured or even scraped off on rough access roads.

Patching a puncture is not advisable, and replacement is really expensive, nearly a thousand dollars just for the new tank, plus two to four hours worth of labor (depending on any other related damage as well). And you can’t go without the urea-based DEF, since the engine won’t otherwise run properly.

https://www.dieselworldmag.com/armor-up/

Educate yourselves.

The most confident pick-up truck in the segment. Translation: The King of the hill.

The 2nd best pick-up truck in the segment. Translation: The First Loser

Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Jul 10, 2017 4:25:23 PM

I fixed it for you.

The most confident pick-up truck in the segment. Translation: The King of the hill.
There I fixed it for you Frank.

The most confident pick-up truck in the segment. Translation: The King of the hill.

Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Jul 10, 2017 4:25:23 PM

Better check the max rating for towing. It's no where near the King of the hill. IFS can't handle the heavy weight like the King of Beast Ram.

The most confident pick-up truck in the segment. Translation: The King of the hill.
There I fixed it for you Frank.

Posted by: uglyfords | Jul 10, 2017 5:03:28 PM

You didn't fix anything, you basically reiterated what your sister just said. SMH.

Poor lazy man has to get out of his truck to pull mirror out manually. Its a dam truck that shouldn't need all those lazy man features. Maybe he should've pull them out before getting into truck and hooking up the trailer.

How many years has Fords transfer cases been hanging lower the their frame rails and you never hear about them being ripped off when off road. Gotta find something to bitch about I guess.

It's no where near the King of the hill.

Posted by: HEMI V8 | Jul 10, 2017 5:04:52 PM

910 ft/lbs torque, 445 hP. Makes it KING! RAM and FORD is fighting over second place.

@Greg.... so "nearly a dozen trucks" out of the hundreds of thousands that GM has built sold since 2011? You cite a single anecdotal " he told me so" source that represents the most extreme usage case of a product (underpaid/undereducated construction workers driving a truck they have no financial stake in, in a hazardous environment) Yeah Im still not seeing your point.

Dozen as seen by one company at that time of posting. Sorry you have to keep defending the GM twins.

Sorry you have to keep defending the GM twins.

Posted by: Greg | Jul 10, 2017 8:53:36 PM

Another one of Nitro's alias names.

No just stole his saying. Again sorry you have to keep defending the GM twins.

you guys ever walk up to any GM truck and touch the front bumper? It's a thin piece of sheet metal
every time I look at any GM I can hear birds singing "cheap-cheap-cheap"
GM has a real problem of keeping costs down and staying competitive at the same time

hmmmm, its a wonder if this truck is so great, why are they not number 1? Thats right, reliability, old tech, outdated offset interiors, shaky motors, bail outs, rusted frames, bent beds....to name a few. Sorry gms, johnny papa you guys have to continue to defend these trucks.....

hmmmm, its a wonder that so many Ford fans think their truck is so great, why are they considered number 1 by their fans but hated by so much by their current and previous owners ? Thats right, reliability, poorly developed tech, ugly too busy interiors with uncomfortable seats, blown spark plugs, head gaskets, turbos, timing chains, poorly aligned body panels, cheese grate truck beds, continual programming update to try and keep up. False marketing promises, (any Ford commercial) Then their are the recalls ,oh so many safety recalls, to name a few. Sorry Nitro, with his many alias names have to continually defend the F-sisters.

@gms, and there you go defending again.......

@gms, and there you go defending again.......

Posted by: Nitro | Jul 11, 2017 7:52:43 AM

Re-read my last post and specifically identify one example of defending anything.

Who cares what the ford clowns have to say, we all know whose #1.
Besides we all know the real reason ford went to a Aluminum body was to make it easier for the owners to push them.

Nothing really new here. Played it very safe (didn't even bother to find a good place for the DEF tank). Look for them to fall even farther behind.

Guys, for a moment let's play on the "Home Team" (loosely defined as the typical American brands)
Let's pick on Nissan's nightmare. Check out Car and Drivers long term road test of a 2016 XD. What a nightmare! Their truck strategy and marketing needs a serious reset.

The ford gas tank hangs below the frame at the back of the truck unprotected and you clowns don't seem to mind that. Gas is a little more dangerous than DEF fluid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt8XnHeaiKw @ 5:02

@gms, the whole thing is exactly is pointed at Ford, in similar fashion of all the known problems of GM trucks, what you do many times as I have said many times, is you never really talk about how great GM trucks are, you only bash Ford, people who do that are overly jealous of the #1 truck maker, Ford, its a failed defense tactic, I mean you know there is a huge problem with blown spark plugs on chevy's(yet you point out Ford which doesnt have the issue), same with the other issues you mention, you say bad for Ford, but its good for ford, but bad for GM, reverse psychology on yourself much?

Never heard of any issues with the DEF tank or Fords gas tanks. Seems like a non issue to me.

(DEF) is a non-hazardous solution, DEF is sprayed into the exhaust stream of diesel vehicles to break down dangerous NOx emissions into harmless nitrogen and water. Posted by: uglyfords | Jul 10, 2017

@NOx

what's "dangerous" about oxides of nitrogen?

@ Nitro , Trying to defend your ford trsh again, poor little man.LOL

you say bad for Ford, but its good for ford, but bad for GM, reverse psychology on yourself much?

Posted by: Nitro | Jul 11, 2017 9:33:31 AM

So sorry you have to continually defend FORD. GM has the most powerful Diesel engine in the segment. GM Duramax outperforms the competition in performance empty and loaded. O.k. Nitro, let the defense begin.

GMS- sorry you will need to defend the most powerful since fords trq got you yet again, theres a reason GM is not first

fords trq got you yet again,

Posted by: Nitro | Jul 11, 2017 10:39:22 AM

You mean the Ford published torque and not the comparison real world torque testing. Maybe you should take your head out of Ford's marketing A@& and read some of the article posted here on PUTC.

http://cars.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e201b8d26b9018970c-pi

I wouldn't be so quick to downplay Fords TQ. That was a sample size of one and recall Ford's max torque is governed though the first 2 or 3 gears. Anybody know if the Ford and GM numbers are SAE certified? That's really the only 3rd party I'd give any creedance to.

@gms, sorry you had to defend again, I would also be mad if another maker was one upping everything. Maybe in 10 years GM will will catch up. Thats if they are still around.

@ Nitro , Sorry you have to defend the F-Series.LOL

GM #1 TRUCK

@sierra, I mean GMS.or johnny, papa????......wait which one are you?

Per the previous comments, seems like a lot of posters have already driven this truck. Looks like a nice truck and will do the job. Whatever it may be.

GM has continued pursuing greater performance and handling capability for their trucks while FORD is developing new camera mounting locations along with other smoke a mirror type marketing features.

@gms, now you are just not making sense anymore, nice try though, you can tell you, just like GM is shooting from the hip....

GM has continued pursuing greater performance...while FORD is developing new camera mounting locations along with other smoke a mirror type marketing features. Posted by: GMSRGREAT

@GMSRGREAT

truer words were never spoken! Ford will continue to slouch along in the sales figures until there is a new board of directors. Changing the CEO was just replacing a faulty part.

What's needed is new vision of the sort that guys like Iococca and Jobs deliver. They are rare people but Bill Ford is obviously NOT the answer.

Apart from having a famous grandfather, does anyone really believe he would still be pulling the levers at Ford's board after this long? Without a change at the top, it's a bad future for Ford.

@papa, I agree with you, why would they change when they have been so successful for all this time, being the pioneer for innovation, and all the rest are followers of the Ford innovation. great point.

truer words were never spoken!

Posted by: papajim | Jul 11, 2017 1:57:57 PM

Thanks for the very fake news.

Ford F-Series is America's best-selling lineup of pickup trucks: 429,860 sold in 2017. Silverado + Sierra + Canyon + Colorado = 427,282 sold

Sorry you FNN-GM guys have to keep defending the GM twins.

Ford loves to use the words innovate and technology when they should say refine and adapt. The last major contribution Ford made to the auto industry was the one piece V8 flat head block. Since then they have just refined and adapted other products to work on their cars and trucks

GM is the best!

LMBO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSxYLkOHDtk

@johnny sammy In the words of Nitro, sorry you have to defend them yet again.

I wonder if they made the steering wheel centered, or if you still have to lean to one side.

@ johnny doe. Good video, but as usual the ford clowns don't see it the same way. They seem to believe what ford tells them and there's no way of changing there little minds. So pitiful..

@papa, I agree with you, why would they change when they have been so successful for all this time

@Nitro

Success?

Mercury? Dead. Lincoln? A veg. Edsel? Dead

910 ft/lbs torque, 445 hP. Makes it KING! RAM and FORD is fighting over second place.

Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Jul 10, 2017 8:33:02 PM

Sales in Ram H.D. is great.