Awesome month for GM. More GM trucks sold in June than the entire F-sister line-up.

I am most surprised to see the Colorado and Canyon combined sales off again from last year. I thought that these were supposedly selling as fast as GM could make them. Ram still manages to get some gains even though they have not brought anything big to the market for several years. Siverado sales are up but I have been seeing some huge sales on them. Titans are up but probably not enough to be profitable. Maybe their increase will motivate the others to offer a longer warrentee. That would be nice. Ford keeps getting some solid gains, probably mosty from the Super Duty lines. That should be good for the bottom line.

Ford and GM were very close in combined truck sales.

F-150 and Super Duty have more year to date sales than Chevy 1500, Chevy HD, GMC 1500, GMC HD, Canyon, and Colorado COMBINED.

Ram fans will be disappointed to see the #2 potential slipping away but Ram corporate will still be elated. Ford and Ram are chopping away at their market share while GM fans insist tbere is nothing wrong.
A recent post by a former Chevrolet owner was only met with contempt and attempts to undermine his opinion, good thing engineers and marketing are more intelligent than any brands fan boys.

Go ford you're number one second to none!!!!

I have to admit that ford is a big player in the truck market and I don't know what happen to gm. Still low sales on gm side but ford is doing way better than gm.

I have to admit that ford is a big player in the truck market and I don't know what happen to gm. Still low sales on gm side but ford is doing way better than gm.

I was doing the math and FORD beat Chevy and gmc trucks combine by 67,767 units so far that's a lot of trucks for only one line of trucks the F-SERIES.

I was doing the math and FORD beat Chevy and gmc trucks combine by 67,767 units so far that's a lot of trucks for only one line of trucks the F-SERIES.

Mike Levine‏ @mrlevine 4h4 hours ago

Ford F-Series is America's best-selling lineup of pickup trucks: 429,860 sold in 2017. Silverado + Sierra + Canyon + Colorado = 427,282 sold

https://twitter.com/mrlevine/status/881869788355731459

PS

Mike Levine‏ @mrlevine 4h4 hours ago

First half Ford F-Series sales outpace segment, up 8.8% with 429,860 trucks sold. Best results since record sales run in 2004!

PPS

Mike Levine‏ @mrlevine 4h4 hours ago

Ford F-Series sales of 77,895 trucks up 9.8% last month. EcoBoost engines more than 65% of F-150 mix. 2.7L EcoBoost top selling engine.

78 405 pickups sold by GM. I do believe that is more than Ford.

I know there will be some who will want to state that GM pickups come from two different companies.

But, I want to know where I can buy Chev shares or GMC shares?

I thought there is only GM shares that are traded.

I do like the fact that the Titan is slowly increasing in numbers. I think being such a new pickup people want to wait and see prior to investing in one.

TruckTrend has rated the Titan very highly. It ain't all about mostest hp or biggest torque or quickest 1/4 mile. It about being a pickup.

People who worry about the mostest and bestest aren't trying to buy a truck but a toy. That is 75% of pickup bought.

Mike Levine‏ @mrlevine 4h4 hours ago

Ford F-Series is America's best-selling lineup of pickup trucks: 429,860 sold in 2017. Silverado + Sierra + Canyon + Colorado = 427,282 sold

https://twitter.com/mrlevine/status/881869788355731459

Posted by: Dave Z. | Jul 3, 2017 12:19:35 PM

Well said, Mike!

Ram and Ford are both up big on sales, for the year and the month.
Chevy is flat or down on sales, for the year and the month.
GMC is down big on sales, for the year and the month.
It looks like the huge increase in incentives helped stop the bleeding last month for Chevy.

"I know there will be some who will want to state that GM pickups come from two different companies."

That is because GM wants us to believe that they are from two different companies, mainly so that if you get upset with one dealer you can go across the road and buy from that dealer. Keeping two dealers in each town, two ad campaings going, tooling for all the different parts and inventory of the different parts costs a lot of money and eats into profits. You have to wonder if it is really worthwhile for GM to do that.

I drive by the Ram, Ford, Chevy and GM lots every day, Last month there was very few trucks on the lots. This month they are all full of trucks.
I do drive by the other lots but do not pay attention to them..

Chevy is selling the ZR2 about as fast as they can make them...

And many ford fans thinks the return of the ranger is gonna outsell the tacoma?

Incentives from each brand's website:
*Ram - 0% APR for 72 months
*Ford - 0% APR for 60 months
*Chevy - 0% APR for 60 months/or $8,200 discount/ or 0% APR for 72 months on some packages.
*GMC - $10,800 discount

I might start reminding everyone monthly that McDonalds sells the most hamburgers worldwide. No one in this comments section will even remotely believe that McDonald's makes the best tasting hamburger in the world.

So why believe that Ford makes the best truck? Because they don't make the best. They make cheap aluminum soda cans for less money and deposit almost no money mass selling to fleets.

GM is raising their ATP per vehicle and making money. Ford fired their CEO because despite selling a lot of soda cans they can't make good money. GM is the smart company here.

Dodge is making a show but they're giving those things away.

Always hilarious to see sales charts treated as "teams" by the usual idiots.....

Often , the vehicles that SELL the most are NOT the best for an individual or even the best in the segment.

IF you love seeing your vehicle at every corner , sales leader is your way to go. IF you love being like everyone else , sales leader is your way to go. IF you use this "sales leader logic" then you surely own a Camry as well and love it and you certainly DONT own or love: Raptors, Shelbys, GT's, or any other superb products that DONT sell well......think about it for a while and you may eventually get it. F Series are great trucks but do you REALLY want EVERYONE on the street to have one just like YOU? No thanks....choice and variety make it fun and interesting.

Always hilarious to see sales charts treated as "teams" by the usual idiots.....

Often , the vehicles that SELL the most are NOT the best for an individual or even the best in the segment.

IF you love seeing your vehicle at every corner , sales leader is your way to go. IF you love being like everyone else , sales leader is your way to go. IF you use this "sales leader logic" then you surely own a Camry as well and love it and you certainly DONT own or love: Raptors, Shelbys, GT's, or any other superb products that DONT sell well......think about it for a while and you may eventually get it. F Series are great trucks but do you REALLY want EVERYONE on the street to have one just like YOU? No thanks....choice and variety make it fun and interesting.

Keeping two dealers in each town, two ad campaings going, tooling for all the different parts and inventory of the different parts costs a lot of money and eats into profits. You have to wonder if it is really worthwhile for GM to do that.
Posted by: Walt | Jul 3, 2017

@Walt

You sound like a guy from the bubble. Across much of the American interior states (not California or New York) the small town residents drive a good distance to see a new car dealer of any kind.

The typical lot that sells new GMC's does not sell Chevys nor is it even near one. The typical place to buy a GMC probably also sells/services new Caddies and/or new Buicks.

And of couse some small towns have a Ford or Chevy dealer.

Maybe it's worth a reminder:

Ford shares that you bought in July 2014 for $14.50 a share are now trading for three dollars less. If you own GM shares, they are trading at their FIVE YEAR HIGHS today.

So, if you're a Ford employee, you've got another reason not to like the suits in Dearborn.

Ford’s F-Series had its best sales performance for the first half of the year since a record year in 2004, and Ford SUVs had the best-ever first-half performance, marking the first time the company has sold more than 400,000 SUVs.

He said that’s encouraging, given the three new SUV models Ford will roll out in 2018.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2017/07/03/june-auto-sales/103388978/

Untill I see some sales numbers camparing apples to apples you guys can blow all the smoke you want to and its all just a bunch of propaganda that dose'nt mean any thing come on, lets see the numbers...

Ford F150 Total Sales__________?
Ford F250 Total Sales__________?
Ford F350 Total Sales__________?
Ford F450 Total Sales__________?
Ford F550 Total Sales__________?

Ram 1500 Total Sales__________?
Ram 2500 Total Sales__________?
RAm 3500 Total Sales__________?
Ram 4500 Total Sales__________?
Ram 5500 Total Sales__________?

Silverado 1500 Total Sales______?
Silverado 2500 Total Sales______?
Silverado 3500 Total Sales______?
Silverado 4500 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx!
Silverado 5500xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx!

GMC 1500 Total Sales__________?
GMC 2500 Total Sales__________?
GMC 3500 Total Sales__________?
GMC 4500 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx!
GMC 5500 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx!

Now lets get some numbers pickuptrucks.com, OK?

I think if you compare each category individually GM is doing quite well, considering the fact that they are missing a vehicle in two of the segments and also the fact that GM is focusing more on retail markets and cutting back on fleet sales.

This thing of Ford fseries being the sales champ for all these years, depicting the f150 while they are including two segments that gm dosnt even offer is misleading and call it what you want but anyone knows that Chevy and GMC are the same truck other than a few cosmetics,
BTW, who says that the best selling vehicle is the best quality.
Because McDonalds sells more Burgers than Five Guys, does that mean McDonalds is the best...

"If you own GM shares, they are trading at their FIVE YEAR HIGHS today."
GM closed today at 35.57. Their 12 month high was 38.55 and they closed on at 37.43 on February 27th. And yes, I do own GM stock. I do like my F150 though and am very glad that the body is not made of heavy, rusty steel.

Great job GM, best trucks, and making big profits. Ford could only dream of with their fleet and discount special al junk.

Great job GM, best trucks, and making big profits. Ford could only dream of with their fleet and discount special al junk.

Keeping two dealers in each town, two ad campaings going, tooling for all the different parts and inventory of the different parts costs a lot of money and eats into profits. You have to wonder if it is really worthwhile for GM to do that.
Posted by: Walt | Jul 3, 2017

Right, that's why GM is making more money ($2.6 Billion) then Ford (1.6 Billion).

https://www.gm.com/investors/earnings-releases.html

http://shareholder.ford.com/reports-and-filings/quarterly-reports#/2016

"I am most surprised to see the Colorado and Canyon combined sales off again from last year. I thought that these were supposedly selling as fast as GM could make them."
Posted by: Walt | Jul 3, 2017 11:16:01 AM

I hear ya. When F-150 sales were down in early 2015 Ford claimed "supplier" issues and I called B.S. When they sky rocketed I said it's because of incentives, but facts pointed out GM has the most highly incentive trucks on the planet, so I then said it's fleet sales. I too said GM couldn't build the mid size trucks fast enough. Now I'm not sure what to say about those so I say more dumb stuff like
"Awesome month for GM. More GM trucks sold in June than the entire F-sister line-up."
Like everybody doesn't know I am comparing F-150 thru F-650 (6) trucks to GM's 1500-5500 (10 trucks) and the mid size twins (2) totaling 12 trucks to Ford's 6. But hey man, GM sold 510 more for the month !!! Don't tell anybody, but we're still over 2,500 trucks behind in our 12 vs 6 approach ....hehehe

Gosh, luckily shaky GOVT motors heavy discounting paid off thanks to desperado advertising managed to starve off Ram from 2nd place...oh well, still short of approx. 3 000 units to catch up to the leader...Ford, US No.1 selling truck for over 41 yrs & counting :-)

The Toyota Tacoma outsold the GMC Sierra once again. This Tacoma truck deserves a V8 in a 1794 Platinum trim if they can sell Denali's at a lesser volume.

McDonald's does have the best burgers for a buck. what's five guys now $8.

Gosh, luckily shaky GOVT motors heavy discounting paid off thanks to desperado advertising managed to starve off Ram from 2nd place...oh well, still short of approx. 3 000 units to catch up to the leader...Ford, US No.1 selling truck for over 41 yrs & counting :-)

See you at McDonalds.....

Just like the full size pickup truck, You gotta wonder how chevy feels. A brand new camaro platform and losing to the mustang and challenger in sales again. LOL

Mustang 6,186
Challenger 6,005
Camaro 4,691

Ram still manages to get some gains even though they have not brought anything big to the market for several years.
Posted by: Walt | Jul 3, 2017 11:16:01 AM

Ram manages manages to maintain or gain sales thanks to massive rebates and subprime financing. They probably even accept food stamps as down payment on a Ram 1500.

A brand new camaro platform and losing to the mustang and challenger in sales again. LOL

Mustang 6,186
Challenger 6,005
Camaro 4,691

Posted by: Blueman | Jul 3, 2017 3:51:49 PM

I wonder how Ford feels when their completely redesigned significantly more expensive GT350R, carbon fiber wheels and Voodoo 5.2 eto boot, still can't beat a cheaper SS 1LE around a track. How pathetic lol.

You can tell that Ford was afraid when they didn't want to release Nurburgring lap times for the GT350R, despite all the testing they did there in the year before its release.

Keeping two dealers in each town, two ad campaings going, tooling for all the different parts and inventory of the different parts costs a lot of money and eats into profits. You have to wonder if it is really worthwhile for GM to do that.
Posted by: Walt | Jul 3, 2017

They don't need two dealers in each town. There are plenty of dealers that sell both GMC and Chevy trucks off the same lot.

Posted by: Grizz | Jul 3, 2017 4:33:09 PM

From: Motortrend Magazine
Shelby GT350R vs Camaro ZL1

The thing is, when you get these two studs on a winding canyon road, the Shelby is the car you want to be driving. That steering simply comes alive. The GT350R sports one of the best-feeling front ends I’ve had the privilege of experiencing. It’s simply excellent. This Shelby’s shifter shifts better, the engine feels better (who wouldn’t take an 8,250-rpm redline over a 6,500-rpm limit?), the brake pedal feels better, and the car is simply sportier in every way. The R’s just more fun to drive.

As for the ZL1, save your tears and angry subscription-canceling letters. Look, Chevy knows they left something out on the playing field.
Until such a time, the GT350R remains not only the ultimate Mustang but also the ultimate ponycar. Ford has won this battle.

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/ford/mustang/2017/2017-chevrolet-camaro-zl1-vs-2017-ford-mustang-shelby-gt350r-review/

I am comparing F-150 thru F-650 (6) trucks to GM's 1500-5500 (10 trucks) and the mid size twins (2) totaling 12 trucks to Ford's 6. But hey man, GM sold 510 more for the month !!! Don't tell anybody, but we're still over 2,500 trucks behind in our 12 vs 6 approach ....hehehe

Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Jul 3, 2017 3:03:49 PM

Often imitated but never duplicated. To the GMSRGREAT wanna be copy cat, GM doesn't sell a 5500 series truck or a 4500 series truck either. LOL!

Folks, look the profits, GM is killing ford and Chrysler (FACT). I am guessing what is driving the Fords F-150 sales is fleet sales. GM has cut way back in fleet sales. In May 34% of Ford total vehicle sales were fleet which is not profitable. There is more to the story, look at the stock of the company (ford is not doing well), look the quarter/yearly profits (Ford is not doing well). If Ford trucks are selling so well why are their profits so low? Folks look at the facts, something in not right at Ford and their truck sales; I would guess there retail truck sales are not much more than the Silverado.

By the way, there was a class action suit by Chrysler dealers on reporting sales much higher that what was reality, i have a feeling Ford is not giving the full story on the F-150 truck sales. Company's growth by purposefully inflating FCA's vehicle sales numbers and falsely touting the Company's streak of U.S. monthly vehicle sales growth (on a year-over-year basis).

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/shareholder-class-action-filed-against-fiat-chrysler-automobiles-nv--fcau-300306483.html

Folks, look the profits, GM is killing ford and Chrysler (FACT). I am guessing what is driving the Fords F-150 sales is fleet sales. GM has cut way back in fleet sales. In May 34% of Ford total vehicle sales were fleet which is not profitable. There is more to the story, look at the stock of the company (ford is not doing well), look the quarter/yearly profits (Ford is not doing well). If Ford trucks are selling so well why are their profits so low? Folks look at the facts, something in not right at Ford and their truck sales; I would guess there retail truck sales are not much more than the Silverado.

By the way, there was a class action suit by Chrysler dealers on reporting sales much higher that what was reality, i have a feeling Ford is not giving the full story on the F-150 truck sales. Company's growth by purposefully inflating FCA's vehicle sales numbers and falsely touting the Company's streak of U.S. monthly vehicle sales growth (on a year-over-year basis).

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/shareholder-class-action-filed-against-fiat-chrysler-automobiles-nv--fcau-300306483.html

How does the 10 year old tundra sell double the new titan. Are Toyota buyers that stupid?

ford outsells the competition because the garbage they build never lasts very long. They have to be replaced every few years. Ever notice that you don't see very many old fords on the road.

You definitely don't see many 6.0 or 6.4 Powerstroles. Those that are still running were the ones that have $10k or more in "bulletproofing" mods.

So the F series is outselling the Silverado, Sierra, Colorado, and Canyon combined. Wait till the Ranger comes back and takes even more sales from Gm and Yota

Ford has won this battle.

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/ford/mustang/2017/2017-chevrolet-camaro-zl1-vs-2017-ford-mustang-shelby-gt350r-review/

Posted by: Blueman | Jul 3, 2017 5:04:40 PM

The GT350R is slow. Watch the video of Randy Prost at the track with both cars. The Camaro wins head to head in performance data and at the track. The problem with the Camaro is it's too refined. I guess that's what you get with quality.

Incentives from each brand's website:
*Ram - 0% APR for 72 months
*Ford - 0% APR for 60 months
*Chevy - 0% APR for 60 months/or $8,200 discount/ or 0% APR for 72 months on some packages.
*GMC - $10,800 discount

Posted by: Market | Jul 3, 2017 1:09:57 PM

Incentives vary by region. McGrath Auto in Cedar Rapids, IA is advertising up to $12k off a new 2017 Ram 1500. Finnin Ford in Dubuque, IA has $9k off a new 2017 F-150 Lariat.
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