This is incorrect, the TRD Pro is not even available in 2017. lol...

The TRD Pro is not even available in 2018***

Toyota's small V8 makes no sense in a truck that weighs that much. Adding a thousand bucks to the price is stupid too.

All of us know that the only major difference in the two engines is displacement. It does not cost $1000 more to build the bigger one. It just makes them look bad. GM does the same damn thing with their 6.2 motor. Dumb.

First the picture is a 2017 Tundra, you couldn't even get a stock photo of a 2018? Second, the TRD Pro trim is not an option in 2018, and there has been no pricing released for the TRD Sport trim.

correction, looks like you too a 2016 Tundra pictures if you hover over the image. Classy journalism, screams pure laziness...

Give Toyota props, offering safety equipment from the stripped down SR trucks up to the Platinum trucks is nice.

It is also nice to see a fully loaded truck that isn't in the $63k+ price range.

Give Toyota props, offering safety equipment from the stripped down SR trucks up to the Platinum trucks is nice.

It is also nice to see a fully loaded truck that isn't in the $63k+ price range.

It is also nice to see a fully loaded truck that isn't in the $63k+ price range.

@Kyle

Wrong. To call a pickup "loaded" would imply that it has all the latest and greatest upgrades.

Today's Tundra is not much different from the one they were selling 10 bleeping years ago. Their product has been surpassed by EVERY other brand of half ton pickup you can buy during the last 10 years.

Toyota deserves to take pride in the respect they get from folks like you. I tip my hat to them for the high resale prices their used trucks get.

But you cannot find a new Toyota on a lot anywhere and call it "fully loaded" because it's an antique before you drive it off the lot. Believe me, if they could get more for their Tundras, they would.

@papajim. What do you consider "fully loaded"?

"The truck that's not changing at all"

Wow, have things changed!!

The land cruiser is offered with an eight-speed and now can be had with a locking rear diff.
MS stated stuff from the land cruiser makes its way to the Tundra; looks like that's not the case anymore. And the TRD Pro has been canceled as well, and the SC program...
Guess Toyota needs to find ways to recoup their losses and future losses from the rust frame settlement.

What do you consider "fully loaded"?

@smokin

Get somebody to read this for you.

I put it in my last comment at the top

" To call a pickup "loaded" would imply that it has all the latest and greatest upgrades."

@ Papajim. You sir are a total loser. You know exactly what I was asking and you choose to deflect because you know nothing. Let me help your third grade education out and relate it to your favorite brand. What latest and greatest upgrades does GM have in the twins that Toyota does not have in the 2018 Tundra?

@papajim GM doesn't even offer blind spot monitor in any trim of truck... GM charges $63k for a Denali, and then charges you an extra $995 for the moon roof!

Toyota gives you seat heaters that actually warm the seat up, unlike the 2014+ GM twins where the seat heaters are worthless.

Toyota also gives you vented seats that actually vent air, unlike the GM twins which you can't even feel the seat fan...

And Toyota gives you rear seat vents, something GM deemed not necessary for rear seat passengers.

Hmm, my 2016 Platinum Tundra 4x4 was 4k higher MSRP than my old 2016 optioned LT Z71 Silverado. GM just discounts them $11k off sticker, which wrecks the resale value in the end. So in my opinion, yeah the Tundra is fully loaded because it has nearly every option (some GM doesn't even offer, like BSM) as the high GM trims.

The GM trucks are nice, but to say the Tundra is not fully loaded compared to the GM trucks, or any truck, is silly. All the GM trucks have are updated powertrains, the rest of the interior is still classic GM with hard plastics and trim pieces that are mismatched or have gaps.

Boring - - - - -(yawn)- - - -

Pricing looks good on these, nice trucks

Not bad for Toyota. papa as usual shows his knowledge problem.

Here come the hateful liberals...

Does a truck have to be updated to the latest electronic gizmo's to be accepted?

You guys are really the ones responsible for driving truck prices up to the price of a home! Trucks are for work or off-road, not competing with a family sedan or minivan or worse an suv.

You have destroyed this segment to make every truck a family minivan. Thanks!

Probably only going to be buying 1 maybe 2 more truck(s) in my lifetime the next being roughly a decade from now and possibly the last being about a decade later. With prices this high they will all almost certainly be used regardless of the make.

"Does a truck have to be updated to the latest electronic gizmo's to be accepted?

You guys are really the ones responsible for driving truck prices up to the price of a home! Trucks are for work or off-road, not competing with a family sedan or minivan or worse an suv.

You have destroyed this segment to make every truck a family minivan. Thanks!

Posted by: oxi | Sep 19, 2017 11:46:30 AM"

I keep reading where people are upset with the cost of pickups these days but it appears that were are our own worst enemy. I didn't check other brands but Ford is having to put more cash on the hood of cheap trucks (XL and XLT) to move them than the are Lariat and up. The people buying want all the bells and whistles. Right now the rebates are $1750 for an XL, $2500 for the XLT and only $1000 for Lariat and up.

@walt, you are correct, other than me, most people buy the top of line trucks, its one reason Ford is number 1. I never cared to have all the leathered out gadgets trucks before, but now I feel differently about it and would go for the platinum. SInce GM doesnt do new tech, I would pass on them.

Walt, It has ALWAYS been that way. Lariat and up sell themselves to ballers like papajim due to the upgrades. XLT needs extra rebates to make the a little more reasonable to buy; but they can take their time with Lariat and up because if you want all the bells and whistles you're going to pay a premium for them. XLT is the mid-level and needs to be comparably priced to the competitors.

They should be decreasing the price instead of increasing it to cover how bad of fuel milage Toyota is

@walt, you are correct, other than me, most people buy the top of line trucks, its one reason Ford is number 1. I never cared to have all the leathered out gadgets trucks before, but now I feel differently about it and would go for the platinum. SInce GM doesnt do new tech, I would pass on them.
Posted by: Nitro | Sep 19, 2017 12:50:07 PM

Me neither, I really just want pwr windows, pwr locks, pwr mirrors, a/c and captain chairs. Leather seats would be nice for durability reasons. I don't care for all those price jacking gadgets that actually makes people dumb drivers.

@walt, you are correct, other than me, most people buy the top of line trucks, its one reason Ford is number 1. I never cared to have all the leathered out gadgets trucks before, but now I feel differently about it and would go for the platinum. SInce GM doesnt do new tech, I would pass on them.
Posted by: Nitro | Sep 19, 2017 12:50:07 PM

Me neither, I really just want pwr windows, pwr locks, pwr mirrors, a/c and captain chairs. Leather seats would be nice for durability reasons. I don't care for all those price jacking gadgets that actually makes people dumb drivers.

The Tundra and Taco could both use new engines.

correction, looks like you too a 2016 Tundra pictures if you hover over the image. Classy journalism, screams pure laziness...

Posted by: Bendover | Sep 19, 2017 8:34:02 AM

Well Toyota obviously doesn't put one iota of effort into their ancient Tundra, why should journalists put any effort into news articles on the truck?

I keep reading where people are upset with the cost of pickups these days but it appears that were are our own worst enemy. I didn't check other brands but Ford is having to put more cash on the hood of cheap trucks (XL and XLT) to move them than the are Lariat and up. The people buying want all the bells and whistles. Right now the rebates are $1750 for an XL, $2500 for the XLT and only $1000 for Lariat and up.

Posted by: Walt | Sep 19, 2017 12:12:13 PM

I noticed on my latest run out west (Cali), Ford dealers were offering $6k off XLT's. $8k off an XL Scab 4WD LB. Not a good time to buy. Wait until November/December when they rush to build up their year-end truck sales numbers. Dealers will be moving to drive down inventory levels.

All this information is incorrect.

This flimsy old truck is still better than any F-150 sold in the last 30 years. Ford gave up on reliability a LONG time ago. Their 4WD system is one of the worst on the market too. The seats are cheap and uncomfortable too.

I bought my first Tundra about five years ago. It was a 2007 SR5 Double-Cab. I've had plenty of full size trucks in my days and the Tundra SR5 Double-Cab was far better in every aspect then any other truck I've owned or driven for that matter. I was always a Ford Man and wished I could have stayed one but Toyota changed my expectations and my standards. Americans should be building better more reliable trucks and until they do I'll be driving a Tundra because I know I'll be getting my money's worth.

I was surprised that papa jim said he had an eight grade education. I didn't realized he reached that high a grade level. I was thinking papa jim completed kindergarten. Now I know why he hates those who have a college education.

Nice truck Toyota! Way better then then the cheap china AL used on Ford, and all the cheap hard plastic Ford puts in their
$80,000 el cheapo models.

@ Walt @ uh huh The truck to many people is there family vehicle. This is why I am a pure fan of the Honda Ridgeline a blend of pickup truck and crossover SUV in one package. Now if your towing/hauling bigger loads you got to go in different direction. So a larger pickup like Tundra might work for you and that becomes your go to vehicle.
The truck should be as safe as the family sedan I guess you would think the features of Antilock Brakes and Stability Control were some years ago on trucks gadgets but it made them safer with stops and collision avoidance rollovers.
Pickup trucks are not just your work vehicle this off-road stuff for a pickup is newer than the pickup truck being used as a family vehicle or daily driver.

Still waiting for the 2014 update to happen. People seem excited to pay an additional 1k for an 11 yr old truck .

Can't believe how many kool-aid drinkers are still out there.
I'll purchase another tundra when Toyota actually puts something new on the table.