MORE JUNK COMING FROM FORD, WHEN IS THE FIRST RE-CALL DATE?l LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Geez, I read an interesting article regarding the Aussie auto industry.

The Falcon and Commodore V8s are gone and it appears the next thing are utes.

This is awesome. Ford finally done something right.

Sorry you guys will need to defend this again, but man, no wonder all the bashing, you guys are obviously scared.....Ford continues to pump out what people want instead of confusing them with multiple identical trucks.....great Job Ford, looking forward to seeing you ahead of the pack for years to come...!

This truck's GONNA BRING IT!

Another questionable product development decision by Ford.

Raptor models will be profitable, but they are appealing to a micro market with this sort of truck. It's a 3-5 percent sort of thing. Likewise for RAM's and GM's efforts in this regard.

If you read up on Ford's business, profit is not their problem---it's bad timing of product releases, and missing the key trends in the market. They've been "busy fighting the last war" since 2007 with their focus on AI, electric drive trains and aluminum pickup trucks. Their miss on the Ranger back in 2012 or so means that they are a runner-up to GM for truck sales and their stock market performance sucks.

apart from that, it's all cool!

Another puff piece with no substance. You have no idea if this will be sold in the US but post it anyway. papajim, I think a lot of what Ford does is questionable but in the end fanboys line up around the block to gladly shell out 40 grand for an ugly aluminum truck with a strange V6 engine that sounds like crap. Honestly it reminds me of democrats at a campaign rally cheering for promises to end their civil rights and justify it as "progress". As far as a ranger raptor goes you could market it for any price and fanboys will cream their aluminum shorts at the thought of owning one, even if it underperforms compared to the ZR2 or TRD Pro, or bends its frame in the spirit of the raptor. Either way Ford is late to the game.

I see another Mad Max movie coming.

Sorry you guys will need to defend this again, but man, no wonder all the bashing, you guys are obviously scared.....Ford continues to pump out what people want instead of confusing them with multiple identical trucks.....great Job Ford, looking forward to seeing you ahead of the pack for years to come...!

Posted by: Nitro | Sep 8, 2017 10:04:09 AM

Oh look, a baby mall crawler. GOOD FOR YOOUU! Why does Ford need to enter into the toy truck arena anyway, of wait, because they have to chase after the leader, GM.

@GMSRGREAT - Funny thing is, I can almost guarantee you that when this comes out it'll outsell the Canyon and Colorado twins.

@GMSRGREAT - Funny thing is, I can almost guarantee you that when this comes out it'll outsell the Canyon and Colorado twins.

Posted by: Johnny Doe Loves Fords | Sep 8, 2017 11:16:00 AM

Almost! You don't sound so sure. Well, you probably got a couple more years before it gets released. Maybe you'll feel more confident when there is an actual midsize Ford truck offered for sale. In the mean time, keep hanging onto you're false claim of "Ford is #1" .

"If you read up on Ford's business, profit is not their problem---it's bad timing of product releases, and missing the key trends in the market."

papajim--you are hilarious.

GM [and RAM] have systematically copied Ford's new product offerings for years.

Here are a few examples:
-Dedicated heavy duty truck frame/suspension model--started w/Super Duty
-Hi-performance Offroad specialty model--started w/Raptor
-Western-themed hi-luxury model--King Ranch
-Hi-performance on-road model--Lightning [The Lil' Red Truck from Dodge was a slug by comparison]

Ford isn't "missing key trends", they're busy inventing them.

@gms, so sorry you have to defend and back track on everything related to GM. I understand why you guys are soooooo worried, and trust me GM is worried too. Ford has the market and isnt even selling in the toy truck market yet.....gonna be a blood bath for sure.

No thank you, TRD Pro is on my shopping list!

By the way, why cannot they just test a standard truck and not a race modified one? Too afraid it might break, you bet...

Note: TRD Pro is already winning races in Baja, too late to care...

@gms, so sorry you have to defend and back track on everything related to GM. I understand why you guys are soooooo worried,and trust me GM is worried too. Ford has the market and isnt even selling in the toy truck market yet.....gonna be a blood bath for sure.

Posted by: Nitro | Sep 8, 2017 11:31:33 AM

As usual, you don`t make any sense. So here is your opportunity to utilize your immense knowledge and infinite wisdom to explain why GM is selling more trucks than Ford. Go ahead, we all want to be enlightened.

@gms, so sorry you have to defend and back track on everything related to GM. I understand why you guys are soooooo worried,and trust me GM is worried too. Ford has the market and isnt even selling in the toy truck market yet.....gonna be a blood bath for sure.

Posted by: Nitro | Sep 8, 2017 11:31:33 AM

As usual, you don`t make any sense. So here is your opportunity to utilize your immense knowledge and infinite wisdom to explain why GM is selling more trucks than Ford. Go ahead, we all want to be enlightened.

GM [and RAM] have systematically copied Ford's new product offerings for years.

Here are a few examples:
-Dedicated heavy duty truck frame/suspension model--started w/Super Duty
-Hi-performance Offroad specialty model--started w/Raptor
-Western-themed hi-luxury model--King Ranch
-Hi-performance on-road model--Lightning [The Lil' Red Truck from Dodge was a slug by comparison]

Ford isn't "missing key trends", they're busy inventing them.

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Exactly. Don't forget bed/tailgate steps, telescoping towing mirrors, increased use of lightweight materials, turbocharged gas engines (rumors are both GM and RAM are working on that right now). Ford has been leading the way with innovation in the truck market for a long time. I will admit they aren't the first with EVERYTHING, but they are undoubtedly the leader in innovation overall in the truck market. That is why their market share in full size trucks is the highest it has been in many years and still growing.

Look at all the garbage motors fan girlys getting mad about something great coming out. GARBAGE MOTORS SUCKS LIKE ALL THEIR GARBAGE COMPANY.

GARBAGE MOTORS SUCKS. IT IS PURE JUNK LIKE THEIR OWNERS.

Go ford keep coming the good stuff AND MAKE ALL THE GARBAGE MOTORS FAN GIRLYS SUFFER LIKE LITTLE GIRLS. HAHAHA HAHAHA.

Fantastic off road truck. This needs to come to America. I am excited to see the new Ranger here soon. The Ranger has always been one of my favorite small trucks. On the other hand i am really happy with the 2016 Canyon Diesel i have currently , used to hate the GM smaller trucks, this one has me smiling. I will agree that when the Ranger hits the lots here it will sell like the old one, and be the most common truck in that size.

Its kinda funny GM fans razzing Ford for ditching and then re-entering a market segment. A market segment GM didn't invent and has never led in and abandoned and returned to themselves... and continues to trail in. You could even take this thinking a bit further when you look at the history of the pony cars... A market that Ford pioneered, with the Mustang, only to have GM come late to the party, never come close to exceeding Fords sales, then abandon the segment, only to again return... GM is honestly much more famous for being late or in then out then back into things than other manufacturers. Theres the sports car segment, the small truck segment, the drum vs disc rears on chevy full size half tons, and even being in business... all things they go back and forth on. I do think its a mistake for ford to go back into this market but im not in charge and don't have all the research they have. And really the bottom line is that GMs gone bankrupt and never built anything as awesome as the GT/GT40, or the Raptor in its entire existence only has 1 model on the list of all time selling cars in the world versus ford's 3. I don't expect reality or history to change dogmatic goons but hey its fun to speak the truth.

@gms.....full size trucks, where the players are Ford, CHevy, GM. ford 1st place, see article on sales breakdown. Ford doesnt have a mid size truck yet, so dont count GM mid sizers in the full equation, that simple. If you want to be stupid and count all of them, then what you are saying is GM can only beat Ford in markets where Ford is not competing in? Correct? I thought so, and sorry you need to defend again. BTW, what will your excuse be, when the Ranger comes out and bumps the confusing twins down? I dont think they will beat toyota, but for sure will beat the confusing twin trucks.

Again, my apologies you will need to defend yet again.

Another questionable product development decision by Ford.

Posted by: papajim | Sep 8, 2017 10:19:22 AM

You need to join Wishful Thinkers Anonymous.
I hear they do wonderful work in returning people to the real world.

Ford isn't "missing key trends", they're busy inventing them.
Posted by: redbloodedxy | Sep 8, 2017

@Redbloodedxy

Tell that to Ford's stockholders. Your list is ancient history

@GMS: ....Ford doesnt have a mid size truck yet, so dont count GM mid sizers in the full equation, that simple....... GM can only beat Ford in markets where Ford is not competing in? ....I dont think they will beat toyota,....

Posted by: Nitro | Sep 8, 2017 12:45:18 PM

Cue the violins:

OK Nitro, continue.

Ford again making something to try and compete with the ZR2 that just BEAT the F150 Raptor in a comparo with Motor Trend.
This thing will fail just like the Raptor!!

So fake. No one abuses their truck like that.

papajim: And what happened to the GM stockholders in 2009??
Dropped on their heads by your company! Shameful.

What's "ancient" is GM's game of following the leader, making their junk ride like a car and having all you GM chumps fall for it.

GM [and RAM] have systematically copied Ford's new product offerings for years. Here are a few examples:
-Dedicated heavy duty truck frame/suspension model--started w/Super Duty
-Hi-performance Offroad specialty model--started w/Raptor
-Western-themed hi-luxury model--King Ranch
-Hi-performance on-road model--Lightning [The Lil' Red Truck from Dodge was a slug by comparison]

Ford isn't "missing key trends", they're busy inventing them.

@redbloodedxy

Please name one of your hot product development trends that isn't at least 10 bleeping years old. Ancient history. This is your list. Pathetic.

When it comes to off road Chrysler is King. The original 4x4 brands Ram and Jeep.

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/ram/2500/2017/chevrolet-colorado-zr2-vs-ford-f-150-raptor-vs-ram-2500-power-wagon/

papajim: pretty much any of the new content offered on most new Ford trucks is class exclusive. Did you read the comparison test last week where Ford made GM look antiquated?? Or was that "ancient history" as well?
All aluminum construction?
2 DI TT V6 engines?
Articulated tailgate steps?

Why don't YOU give US a list of trend-setting achievements GM has offered the truck market in recent times? "Midnight" trim packages don't cut it.

Doesn't matter, I read another post where a smart GM person said the Ranger in general and specifically it's Raptor are too late. Apparently everyone who ever wanted to buy a mid size have bought one already and starting in 2019 there will be no more mid size trucks sold. Oh well.......

High usage of aluminum/lightweight and gas turbo charged engines in truck applications.....might be a small one that will soon be standard when GM and FIAT introduce new models.

Please name one of your hot product development trends that isn't at least 10 bleeping years old. Ancient history. This is your list. Pathetic.
Posted by: papajim | Sep 8, 2017 2:45:52 PM

Sorry, above post was in response to papa.....

@papajim:

HEY, MR. MARKET TRENDS--WE'RE WAITING...

GARBAGE MOTORS SUCKS (AKA FORD). IT IS PURE JUNK LIKE THEIR OWNERS. FOLLOW THE LEADER,----- PUT YOUR FIRST FOOT IN PUT YOUR FIRST FOOT OUT------ LOL

Again not my post. This website needs to do a better job at screening.

Why don't YOU give US a list of trend-setting achievements Posted by: redbloodedxy | Sep 8, 2017

That's easy:

Sold more trucks than Ford the last three years in a row.

short list.

Ford is America’s best-selling truck brand, with 1,077,006 van, pickup and heavy truck sales last year.

Educate yourself.

Just watched that video on my back deck and the neighbors Colorado started leaking oil because it was scared......... WOW that thing is gonna be bad AZZ!!!!!

pretty much any of the new content offered on most new Ford trucks is class exclusive. Did you read the comparison test last week where Ford made GM look antiquated?? Or was that "ancient history" as well?
All aluminum construction?
2 DI TT V6 engines?
Articulated tailgate steps?

Posted by: redbloodedxy | Sep 8, 2017 3:10:04 PM

"new content" aka overpriced gimmicky junk aka future dealer visits when they stop working.

"all-aluminum construction" - Since Ford went to aluminum, their trucks have gotten softer and the fit & finish has been utter crap. Beds that rip apart, seams pop apart, sunlight warps body panels, paint bubbles up and flakes off, windnoise galore because the doors don't seal up, etc. Ram and GM will start using aluminum, but since they're only interested in building tough trucks built for work, they'll only use it where it makes sense. They know the bed isn't one of them.

"DI TT V6 engines" - You mean two of the least dependable engines in the market today, one of which is a joke when it comes to fuel economy. The 5.4 has both beat when it comes to unreliability, but not by much. Complete junk, throwaway engines. Thrown rods, stretched timing chains, junk cam phasers, blown head gaskets, massive oil consumption, fuel diluted oil, blown turbos, junk internal water pumps, cracked spark plugs, constant misfires and limp mode problems, etc.

"Articulated tailgate steps?" - The Ford tailgate step is the embodiment of what's wrong with Ford engineering. Like everything that Ford does, it has to be overly complicated, less reliable, and cost more (is that the "military grade" they were talking about?). They probably spent tens of millions of dollars developing that gimmicky step, only to be embarrassed when GM came out with such a simple and ingenious solution. I'm not a GM guy and I will still admit that they came up with a great idea. Steps you can use with a trailer attached, who would have thought...

What leadership!

Trends are supposed to make a truck great? What an absurdity! Twin I beams were trendy, so was the unibody, 7-lug wheels and the Bronco II, yet they were all crap and have disappeared. Take a wild guess what aluminum bodies are, or unreliable weird V6's, or strange steps.

@gms.....full size trucks, where the players are Ford, CHevy, GM. ford 1st place, see article on sales breakdown. Ford doesnt have a mid size truck yet, so dont count GM mid sizers in the full equation, that simple. If you want to be stupid and count all of them, then what you are saying is GM can only beat Ford in markets where Ford is not competing in? Correct? I thought so, and sorry you need to defend again. BTW, what will your excuse be, when the Ranger comes out and bumps the confusing twins down? I dont think they will beat toyota, but for sure will beat the confusing twin trucks.

Again, my apologies you will need to defend yet again.

Posted by: Nitro | Sep 8, 2017 12:45:18 PM

Wow the only thing that's confusing is your post ?
That's a lot of words while not saying a thing? Lol

Hahahahahaha someone needs some mental health and his name is Jenny Dilto cause apparently he is running out of thoughts. Typical Garbage Motors fab girly. Hahaha come on jonny grow up.

By posting in different names it doesn't cure your stupidity. First she i mean he uses my name to post crap about THE GREATEST TRUCK MAKER FORD and then he post something using FORD IS GREAT. WHAT DID YOU THINK IS GONNA BE NEXT? MARKS USERNAME THIS IS RIDICULOUS. GROW UP GARBAGE MOTORS FAN GIRLYS. BE REAL GARBAGE MOTORS COMPANY IS JUST PURE JUNK. HAHAHAHAHAHAH KEEP IT REAL HOMBOYS.

Sweet - besides Big Al; I have many Aussie friends & family that live there - a bunch of friendy beer drinkers & hard workers. I guess due its history & rough country side, off-road 4x4 is part of their natural everyday life.

So I'm pleased Ford knows this & using their team "down under" to test/finalize the upcoming US Ranger & Bronco...get ready shaky GM fangirls to be rumbled by baby Raptor...heh heh heh :-)

@papajim,
Yes it will be a micro market for these. Ford Australia is now a design and product testing centre located in the State of Victoria
Product decisions come from Ford US, not Australia.Ford US has made some pretty bad calls for Australia, trying to sell the unwanted Taurus here as well as other products.
Local management produced the Territory and the later Falcons that were very well regarded and good sellers

Motor trends test the Ford raptor in North in Canada and they said the truck is only good west coast,,,

@Robert Ryan, you're highlighting the difference between Jac Nasser and Geoff Polites. Nasser was responsible for leading through severe cost cutting measures, whereas Geoff Polites was about local investment, quality, and customer service. Polites was closer to someone like Alan Mulally. Nasser had the old school business mentality, not unlike many other companies in the 80s and 90s.

@Alex
Yes after getting rid of the PAG Group, Jac Nasser came back to Australia and received a golden parachute and landed on the board of BHP Billiton the worlds biggest miner.
The PAG Group has gone onto much bigger and better things since leaving Ford.
Geoff Polites was very much missed by Ford Australia. He really galvanised the Company.