In Mexico. smh.

some commenters have recently opined that the US truck market is too small for VW to consider.

I was unable to resist pointing out in reply that US half ton and SUV sales were off the charts during the last several years (a point I'm fond of making) and this particular segment contributes mightily to the overall profitability of GM Ford and the rest.

Evidently GM is noticing the rising demand.

Always list Ford before GM when including in a sequence.

you can feel free to list them in whatever order you like.

More junk in the junk yards or for scrap metal.

Always list Ford before GM when including in a sequence.
Posted by: redbloodedxy | Jan 10, 2018 3:59:14 PM

Yeah, so when the Ford ecobust breaks down the vastly more reliable, tougher built GM truck can stop and give them a ride home.

The Mexico Plant builds a great truck i have had no squeaks, rattles or anything at all. It is built like a tank Thank you GM for making a great truck!!!

Yeah that’s right fellas more junk in the junk yards for parts or for scrap metal.

If they coming from MEXICO they are well built “Mexican power baby” I agree with that but they still suck though. I wish FORD could do the same thing with all the F-series.

I test drove a ford before buying a GMC. The ford felt like a cheap truck overall and the headlights were horrible. As for the ram the safety ratings are crap so did not even bother looking at that. The titan is not a real truck and the tundra is ok but again some cheap parts make it not as good as GM!!!!

The shaky shakes came from Mexico. They didn't send their best. They are rapists.

I test drove a ford before buying a GMC. The ford felt like a cheap truck overall and the headlights were horrible. As for the ram the safety ratings are crap so did not even bother looking at that. The titan is not a real truck and the tundra is ok but again some cheap parts make it not as good as GM!!!!

Posted by: John S | Jan 10, 2018 4:31:32 PM

I share the same sentiment.

I test drove a GMC Denali before buying a Ford Limited. The GMC felt like a cheap truck overall and the headlights were horrible. As for the ram the safety ratings are crap so did not even bother looking at that. The titan is not a real truck and the tundra is ok but again some cheap parts make it not as good as FORD!!!!

Well frank i did not look at the high end models so i can not comment on that i know the Limited has the better headlights compared to the other models. Im not into the Top end models as they all come with 20 Inch + rims and that no good for off roading

@ Al You dmf!!!!!

@ Al go f k your self you Dumb F k with the comment.

I test drove a GMC Denali before buying a Ford Limited. The GMC felt like a cheap truck overall and the headlights were horrible. As for the ram the safety ratings are crap so did not even bother looking at that. The titan is not a real truck and the tundra is ok but again some cheap parts make it not as good as FORD!!!!
Posted by: Frank | Jan 10, 2018 4:41:45 PM

Now that I've owned my 2016 Lariat Supercrew 3.5 ecoboost I can say that the newest F-150's are cheaply made and unreliable:

Terrible wind noise because the doors were so misaligned and poorly stamped that the seals couldn't seal. Wind noise was terrible.

The front hubs started growling after 500 miles after a vacuum leak destroyed the cheap plastic hub locks.

The body several paint defects including paint runs, fisheye defects, and spots where you could see primer coming through because there wasn't enough paint. There are really bad waves in the sheet metal that I didn't notice when I first bought the truck. It looks terrible on a nice sunny day.

The frame has rust on all the welds. In the past that wouldn't be a big deal but these days Ford uses such thin steel to make their frame as light as possible that it wouldn't take much rust before holes start showing up.

The doors are really light which makes the truck feel like a toy. They sound cheap thin and hollow when the door slams shut.

After seeing how thin Ford made the aluminum bed, I paid for a factory spray-in bedliner. Turns out Ford doesn't prep the bed correctly at the factory. They just sprayed the bed liner right over the fresh paint. Not even a year later and there are big patches of bedliner that peeled off after sliding a pallet across it. My company truck is a 2010 F-250 that had a Line-x liner that held up to way more abuse than that. They prep the surface before trying to spray the liner on it.

The dash up near the windshield is completely warped after one hot midwest summer. The new interior plastics Ford is using these days is the cheapest and thinnest I've ever seen. Is this truck going to look like my brother's 97 Dodge Ram after the whole dash cracked and disintegrated?

The engine had to be replaced under warranty after a year. At 1000 miles, it would rattle really bad on cold start and would tick when warm. Dealer said they all do that. Another dealer brushed me off too. The noise got worse and worse. 2000 miles later the engine suddenly started running like crap and the check engine light was on. You could hear all kinds of rattling and loud ticking going. The salesmen must have hated when I pulled into the lot with a truck that sounded like the engine was ripping itself apart. Hard to sell a truck when buyers see the wonderful experience I was having HAHA.

The transmission is terrible. It bangs on downshifts, every once in a when I get on it to pass somebody and it shifts it makes a weird howling noise, it's constantly trying to lug the engine at 1100 RPM. On the highway doing between 65 and 75, you can feel the torque converter shuddering while it tries to hold a gear that is obviously too tall.

The electrical system goes crazy at random times. Once I was pulling my Nitro Z8 to the Ozarks for a week of fishing. All of the sudden the computer went crazy. It told me that I didn't have a trailer connected, check engine light on, check 4x4 message, a warning message popped up for low tire pressure, then the screen went black. The windows wouldn't roll down, the AC didn't work, the gauges were dead, no lights. I ended up having to leave the truck at a dealership in Nebraska and pulled my boat the rest of the way with a rental. It took 3 weeks to fix.

In the past I would have agreed with you totally about the GM trucks being cheap but after the last two Ford trucks I've owned, I'm done wasting my money on them. These new aluminum trucks are cheaply made and these ecoboosts make good power but are totally unreliable.

That’s a good looking red Toyota Tundra in the picture.

Putting sarcasm aside, I never liked the looks of the Chevy as much as other pickups. This one looks to be a home run.

ErikH66, sorry to hear about your many different issues. I have a 16 5.0 fx4 with 50 k and it’s been nothing but awesome so far. Literally None of the issues yours has seen, but different engine. We also have about twenty 2015-17 f150s in my fleet at work and the only issues so far have been some fuel vaccum code on one truck with 45 k. I see 110 degree summers here and prbly 130 in the cab and no warping to any dash items so that’s misfortunate. Sounds like it should be covered under the lemon law to me. I have had good experiences with all the fords ive own, and all my buddies who own GMs like there’s for the most part too so I don’t bash them. All manufacturers end up having lemons or defects.

Glad to see more trucks will be available on the market. Hopefully it drives the price of these things down! Getting way too expensive

So Frank finally traded in his spark plug spitting Triton F-250 for a new Limited?

This just in! GM is currently increasing its rebates and bribes program in order to unload all of the Hecho en Mexico high profit trucks it hopes to "as-semble". The UAW has not returned our calls for comment. Stay tuned!!!

I think this new Silverado looks awesome and I was looking forward to possibly buying one but won't if it's made in Mexico. The new Ram looks like it might be nice but it's FCA so no. Toyota and Nissan obviously no since they are also owned by foreign companies. Looks like I'll be buying an F-150 or Ranger since they are/will be made in the USA and the company is American.

ErikH66, sorry to hear about your many different issues. I have a 16 5.0 fx4 with 50 k and it’s been nothing but awesome so far. Literally None of the issues yours has seen, but different engine. We also have about twenty 2015-17 f150s in my fleet at work and the only issues so far have been some fuel vaccum code on one truck with 45 k. I see 110 degree summers here and prbly 130 in the cab and no warping to any dash items so that’s misfortunate. Sounds like it should be covered under the lemon law to me. I have had good experiences with all the fords ive own, and all my buddies who own GMs like there’s for the most part too so I don’t bash them. All manufacturers end up having lemons or defects.
Posted by: Oilfieldfx4 | Jan 10, 2018 9:07:08 PM

I'm not going to lemon law my truck but it has definitely rattled my nerves as far as how long I plan on owning the truck. I figured that when they swapped the engine out it might have lead to the electrical or transmission problems but I don't know how much is involved in a job like that or if it's even possible. I mainly shared my story in response to the the mud throwing going on in here. I've driven the newer GM and Ram trucks and I don't see the cheapness that guys like Frank claim. Yeah they have hard plastics and stuff like that but I can easily find the same kind of stuff in mine.

Have to laugh at you clowns saying Mexico builds are better. Whatever makes you sleep comfortable at night.

I have OVER 5000 miles on my 2016 F-150 with the 3.5 Eco-Boost and I have NO problems with it.
A little rattling noise at start up (sounds like someone under my truck throwing handful of rocks up on the exhaust pipes) - but that sound goes away after I start moving and turn the radio volume up
Dealer says that noise is normal, not to worry

The new Chevy is a great looking truck. Love the styling.

Glad you're making more Crew Cabs but may come in long beds pickups

Its where the money is.

they will need to make 100k more to beat Ford halton+

-CT

I have been driving GMC trucks since 1997. Never had to do leave for repairs. Each one had over 100000 miles when I bought a new one

they will need to make 100k more to beat Ford halton+

-CT

Posted by: crunchtime | Jan 11, 2018 10:56:26 AM

Where did you get the details on how many Ford half tons have been sold?

A little rattling noise at start up (sounds like someone under my truck throwing handful of rocks up on the exhaust pipes) - but that sound goes away after I start moving and turn the radio volume up
Dealer says that noise is normal, not to worry
Posted by: Ecoboost Rules | Jan 11, 2018 2:26:46 AM

Yeah that's the classic noise of a modern Ford engine. That rattling noise is usually either the junk cam phaser Ford uses or it's the timing chain whipping around and hitting the cheap plastic timing chain guide. Eventually the guide breaks. In other cases, the cheap timing chain has stretched enough that while it's whipping around it jumps a tooth, creating a nice expensive repair bill.

This is how Ford treats its service technicians well. They make so much money fixing these ecoboosts that they're able to pay for their kids college in full. They tell you the death rattle is normal in hopes that it'll keep running long enough for the warranty period to expire.

I want to buy a 2019 Sierra Denali crew cab. As a GM/UAW Retiree, I will not or any other vechicle as they are built in Mexico or any other country other than the US.

@Doober

My 2009 Silverado LS was proudly made in Ft. Wayne and it's been a real stud. It just rolled 100k miles on the odometer a few months ago.

Just got back from a wash/wax a few minutes ago. Looks and runs like new.

Congratulations on your retirement. Look for the Ft Wayne sticker on the door jamb. Enjoy that 2019!