Vehicles can sit on the lots when times get tough. The last time truck values dropped was the great recession of 2008. The economy is pretty spiced up now but MSRP has risen to ridiculous levels. This time is might not be the economy but instead consumer debt, interest rates, poor trade in value, and $60k to $100k pickup prices.

How does one more selling day make someone, not already planning to buy, change their mind?
If it's convenience, dealerships could increase sales by just extending open hours.

This time is might not be the economy but instead consumer debt, interest rates, poor trade in value, and $60k to $100k pickup prices.

@Ken

All true, but don't forget that employment numbers and consumer confidence are nearing all time highs---these conditions are the exact opposite of what existed in the Summer of 2008

In my area most companies cannot get enough workers for what they need. Our focus has shifted heavily to automating our processes due to lack of workforce availability. When your unemployment rate is sitting around 2%, its safe to assume the labor pool is tapped out. As Papa already pointed out, its a pretty strong economy when there are more jobs than people looking.

The F-150 is the leader in sales
With it's massive payload it tips the scales

The Eco-Boost engine is the best
That engine never gets stressed

Tops in gas mileage
Today that's stylish

Comfortable ride and tough all around
With a quiet interior you won't hear a sound

Ecoboost best engine, haha not even close. Ecoboost best fuel economy, haha not mine that's for sure, gets poor fuel economy, and sounds stressed when towing. Can't wait to get a Diesel.

High all - new to this site - first post.

@Mark "The 2019 Ram and Silverado are on sale now; the 2019 Sierra will go on sale in the fall. "

Mark - Where do you see that the 2019 Silverado is already on sale? Chevy.com shows availability to be late 2018.

@fab5father

Welcome. I think that dealers are probably taking orders, not necessarily delivering, just taking orders for the upcoming 2019s.

My reading says the new RAM is due out in a few weeks, if not already---the 2019 Chevy is not due for another six months or so.

L iberals will blame T rump for the good economy!

Hmm, my dealer can't even give a price for the 2019 Silverado yet. He said they will be taking orders in late summer for fall delivery.

The Ford and Chevy/GM dealers near me have their lots full of trucks. I drive by them every day

Still have not seen a Centinnial Silverado or Colorado on the streets or lots

@dave @silvy

I'm not speaking for anybody but me, but if I owned any car dealership---and had tons of current inventory on the lot---I would not want my salespeople or managers taking orders on next year's model quite yet.

"Of special note, some experts who keep track of incentive spending are seeing Ford putting more money on the hood "

New Ram and GM trucks aint even on the lot and Ford already pissing in their pants! Atleast you can buy one now closer to what that cheap Ford junk is really worth! LMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ford looks like it's pushing low prices to get a jump on their sales numbers before the 2019 Ram and GM half-tons start taking over. The Ford dealer just down the road from the plant is advertising $13k off left-over 2017's and $11,500 off a 2018 F-150 XLT Supercrew 3.5EB. $9000 off a 2018 F-150 Lariat Supercrew 2.7EB. Who would pay $60k for a 2018 F-150 Lariat with the 2.7EB anyways? The interior looked "modern" but the rock hard plastic felt way too cheap compared to my 2012 F-150 Lariat. The doors felt cheap and tinny. The new 2.7EB was not very impressive and it had a nasty timing chain rattle when it started. Reminded me of our old 5.4 Triton when it started getting the death rattle.

Of extra special note, many experts who keep track of incentive spending are seeing GM putting even more money on the hood, so much that the thin GM hoods are bending.

New GM trucks just sit on the lots as Ford shows continuing growth and greater dominance. This has GM pissing in their pants! Atleast you can buy one of these cheesy old clearly unwanted GM rust buckets closer to what their weight in scrap is really worth! LMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The 2019 Silverado is not on sale now, won't be on sale until at least late summer. More false reporting.

I was at the local chevy dealer today and he said they are ordering 2019’s but not promising anything to anyone yet.

He also mentioned they have two trailbosses ordered already.

Interesting
I read every post and nobody has ONE thing good to say about the Chevy-GMC
,,,,,,,instead they cut down and attack the competition

so let me get this straight? the only reason the Chevy-GMC is better is only because the competition is worse?
ha-ha-ha

so keep convincing yourself about made up, ghost problems with the F-150 to justify why you own a Chevy at the same time I don't have to worry about that cause I own the best, The F-150

@ GM Blows Johnny Chunks good one BUDDY WHO CARES WHAT GARBAGE MOTORS builts because they only build junk nothing but junk. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Yesterday, I made a 300 mile trip in my 6.2 8 speed Silverado. It was a beautiful sunny day which brought out the sparkle of the gorgeous metallic paint. The whole experience was done in absolute High Country style and comfort with total dominance in my ability to pass lesser vehicles such as eco-boosts. Fuel mileage was 22.4 mpg, the best I have achieved to date at an average 70 mph. I never had to stop for fuel along the route so I never got the usual gaze of envy from Ford owners who were refueling their thirsty rigs. Of course, this type of experience is normal for those of us who are fortunate enough, and educated enough to research and then choose the best engineered trucks on the road, which are either of the GM full size twins.

I just picked up my 6.2L yesterday and I can flat out tell you this thing SCREAMS!! There isnt any ecobust out there that can compete with it. All while achieving 22.1 mpgs on the drive hope. ( only 123 miles on it might i say) We GM guys have the economy and reliability of the best small block produced And the performance of a corvette under the hood!!! LOVE IT!!!

6.2L screams. If you want to race why did you buy a truck.

@daren

You're kidding, right?

TNTGMC

That's the first time that you praised your GMC
I am happy for you that you love it

Ask all those GM boys that are bragging on their 6.2 how they like putting in 93 octane. More expensive than diesel! Guys, I know you love your GM junk but to have to put in 93 octane is not cost effective, especially when the ecoboost makes more power using regular gas. The 2.7 would even give the 6.2 a run for its money. The 6.2 is a 93 octane drinking gas hog that is nannied to death and feels like a boat anchor when you drive it. It's about as much fun as stepping on a nail barefoot.

@ ecoboost rules

I don't have to praise my truck to love it!!

I have expectations for it and it meets it everyday!

Do I need to brag about it??? NO! Does all that corvette power deserve to be?? YES!!!

@ Robert

You are clueless. Go drive a 6.2..

No ecoboost can hang with it...I know real world... I just munched my step dads 3.5 ecobust

Get out of here

U only have to put 91 octane in it and guess what? I can afford the 91 octane to give me the best perfomance so who cares...I'll blow the doors off your gerbil engines.
U ford guys have no clue just how impressive the 6.2L is!!

Yesterday, I made a 300 mile trip in my 6.2 8 speed Silverado. It was a beautiful sunny day which brought out the sparkle of the gorgeous metallic paint. The whole experience was done in absolute High Country style and comfort with total dominance in my ability to pass lesser vehicles such as eco-boosts. Fuel mileage was 22.4 mpg, the best I have achieved to date at an average 70 mph. I never had to stop for fuel along the route so I never got the usual gaze of envy from Ford owners who were refueling their thirsty rigs. Of course, this type of experience is normal for those of us who are fortunate enough, and educated enough to research and then choose the best engineered trucks on the road, which are either of the GM full size twins.

What Horse Pucky!!
Probably spend the same amount of time admiring yourself in front of the mirror

Robert is correct and TNTGMC is hopelessly wrong.

@tnt gmc

I owned a 2011 6.2 Sierra so I know exactly what I'm talking about. It's an absolute dog for what it is. You sure don't feel like you got all the horsepower it advertises because the computer kills the engines performance. I sold mine after a year of owning it, that's how bad it was. It's got nothing to do with who can afford 93 octane and who can't, it's stupid to have to use that grade of gas in a truck engine these days. You're welcome to go to YouTube and look at all the videos of 6.2's being smoked by 3.5 if you'd like. The proof is there, all you have to do is go see for yourself.

At TNTGMC, your 6.2 fuel mileage improves over the first 3 to 4 thousand miles. I got 22.4 average yesterday over a 300+ mile trip. There isn't a stock 3.5 eco-boost within a 6000 mile radius that can match that fuel economy. I was only hauling about 200 lbs of gear but it was - 13 deg C or about 9 deg F. All my previous vehicles I have own delivered about 8-10 percent less fuel economy during highway cold winter driving vs summer driving. This 6.2 doesn't seem to know the difference. I guess it is because of the direct injection where fuel atomization is less affected by the ambient temperatures. However, passing power with this cold dense winter air is incredible. As for someone claiming a 2.7 eco-boost can hang with a 6.2, please have your doctor adjust your medicine dosage because a stock 6.2 walks all over it, period.

Here is just one video of a 2016 2.7 destroying a 2016 6.2

https://youtu.be/7gDQSgctlY4

hey Robert

Your 2011 6.2 was rated at 402 ho and 430 tq

New ones are totally different! 420 HP and 460 tq....u have no idea

Keep drinking that cool aide

at Robert

I see same MPH...and the 2.7 wasn't stock....

You ford guys have excuses for everything... Put a tune in that 6.2l and it wouldn't even be close. Your unreal....get a clue.

gm blows johnny chunks

Your name says it all....u sound like an alcoholic. Or maybe u swing opposite way it may seem??? Whatever blows your boat......oh I mean floats your boat!!

BTW....u have to run same octane in ecoboost as 6.2l to get all the power out of it......so your argument is useless, pointless, and absurd!!!
Way to contradict yourself Robert

now what your talking about, you seem like one of those guys that would bring a knife to a gun fight.........geeezzzzz.

At Robert:
Your 2011 6.2 isn't the same beast as the current 6.2. The current 6.2 makes 460 ft/lbs, about 35-40 more than your old 6.2. Plus, all that additional torque is available right off of idle due to the higher compression, direct injection and use of variable valve timing which was not available on your 2011. As for youtube, I did not record my trip yesterday but I can state that I destroyed several eco's and a HEMI yesterday, and they could not do a dang thing about it. When I pulled out to pass, it was already over for them. As TNTGMC already states, the 6.2 screams and it makes a great natural V8 sound that isn't fake like a certain other truck manufacture engine.

For the lone Ford fan boy here, who is commenting under several user names, I refer you to comparison tests done right here on PUTC. Oh, just remember, the 2.7 eco is a lesser engine than a 3.5 eco.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2016/01/whats-the-best-light-duty-truck-for-towing-2016-texas-truck-showdown.html

@GMSRGREAT

Awesome facts!!!!! Great post
They all just need to ride in one to experience the corvette power!

I'm confused?
Consumer Reports did gas mileage tests on all the full size gasoline trucks and the 2018 F-150, 2.7 Eco-Boost was the winner.
Not to cause a fight but everybody believes Consumer Reports, it's proclaimed the bible of vehicles by every manufacturer and dealer.
Now to be fair I can't find CR testing the 6.2 V8 but they did test the 5.3 and it's tough for me to believe the 6.2 gets better MPG than the 5.3.
I understand the 6.2 is rare and has to be special ordered and only avaialble on the higher end Chevy-GMC trucks, you just don't see many around so maybe, just maybe CR didn't test the 6.2 or maybe they didn't bother to test it thinking the same way I do saying it can't get better MPG than the 5.3 ?

I believe TNTGMC he got that mileage but he had to baby it
I could get good MPG's in my 3.5 Eco-Boost if I baby it but it's so much fun to feel that power I just can't help myself

Of course u baby them to get mpgs!!! I set cruise at 70 mph!!!! Now when I want to step on it the power is there NOW!!!

I'll give u that ecoboost rules....the ecoboost make good power...just not fan!! Glad u like yours though...my step dad loves his too...but it was nice knowing my V8 dusted him!! Lol

....... but it's so much fun to feel that power I just can't help myself

Posted by: Ecoboost Rules | Mar 31, 2018 11:55

I know riiight: Too bad you can't experience what 420 HP AND 460 FT/LBS feels like. Oh well, you made your choice.

Also, he babies his on interstate to out lake house and he has NEVER gotten close to 20 mogs with his ecoboost... Always around 18...he does have 3:55 rear end in it, so??? Idk..

GMSRGREAT

LMFAO!!! That's funny!! So true

"Of special note, some experts who keep track of incentive spending are seeing Ford putting more money on the hood "

New Ram and GM trucks aint even on the lot and Ford already pissing in their pants! Atleast you can buy one now closer to what that cheap Ford junk is really worth! LMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: johnny doe | Mar 30, 2018 4:13:44 PM

GM and Ram have had higher factory incentives than Ford for the last few year's. That's not to say there aren't Ford dealers knocking 8k-10k off the price, because high volume dealers of all brands do that. Ford now has to compete for sales with 2 brands (it's main competition) that are going to be super aggressive with pricing trying to make room for all new models that are coming. Then Next year Ford has to compete with 2 fresh trucks. Of course you will be able to buy "Ford junk" a lot cheaper this year and next as compared to recent years. You will also be able to buy GM junk and Ram junk cheaper because Ford will be offering deep discounts. GM and Ram will be the big losers here having to offer Factory incentives very early. Remember the new Silverado in 14' was offering discounts by March of 14' due to slow sales. Ram could potentially start a truck market war because the 19' Ram is undoubtedly going to be superior to the new GM trucks and Ford has a new F-150 following suit in 2020. So enjoy 2019, the rules will be changed again in 2020. ;-)

The F-150 is the leader in sales
With it's massive payload it tips the scales

The Eco-Boost engine is the best
That engine never gets stressed

Tops in gas mileage
Today that's stylish

Comfortable ride and tough all around
With a quiet interior you won't hear a sound

Posted by: Ecoboost Rules | Mar 30, 2018 9:35:48 AM

This is the grown up forum. Please go post elsewhere and take johnny/GMSRGRETTA with you. Thanks!

Ram could potentially start a truck market war because the 19' Ram is undoubtedly going to be superior to the new GM trucks and Ford has a new F-150 following suit in 2020. So enjoy 2019, the rules will be changed again in 2020. ;-)

Posted by: 2.7EcoBoostRoost | Mar 31, 2018 4:55:22 PM

What rules? Ford finally develops a hybrid truck more than a decade latter then GM did. That pretty much represents how far Ford is behind.

It will be interesting to see what the March sales results are. Anyone care to make some predictions?

Ford will be increasing lead.