This is way behind the current Nissan Navara. They got rid of the 4 litre engine,the current small diesel is miles better

The Frontier remains a superb value for the money spent.

None of its competitors over a Crew Cab V6 auto in the mid 20s price-wise. My local Chevy dealer has V6 ZERO Colorados priced in the mid 20s.

You want a great deal on a midsize?

You want a great deal on a half ton?

Go to your friendly RAM dealer. Great truck. Great price. Plenty of inventory to choose from.

Great value for the midsize truck segment the 4.0 v6 is a fantastic engine & never had any problems with the truck. It easily towed my boat over the sierra's. That's the good, the bad, Nissan used to be such a great truck/SUV (Xterra) manufacture of vehicles to explore the outdoors, now it's a joke, a has been. When are the updates coming to these vehicles? Nissan; product wise terrible strategy/leadership in North America.

now it's a joke, a has been. When are the updates coming to these vehicles? Nissan; product wise terrible strategy/leadership in North America...Posted by: fishhawk | Jul 5, 2018

@fishhawk

The V6 Frontier Crew cab is a very good truck within the segment. The price makes it a top choice despite some outdated components. The 5-speed trans is old hat, agreed. The 4.0 is an old design, but still very capable. Have you driven a Tacoma V6 recently. No guts. Have you checked out the auto trans on the Colorado and Canyon? Weird shift programming. Then there's the Ridgeline...

Ah come on Nissan... bring the navara with the baby cummins already!!!

Sluggardly on news of 218 changes. Time for the 2019 models.
Is there even a significant number of 2017 Frontier's available to consider "which should you buy, 2017 or 2018"?

Can someone at PUTC explain why we're getting these "What's Changed for 2018" stories when it's July and 2018s are now clearance items, soon to be leftovers? That's like waiting until the end of the TV season to tell people what was new at the beginning last fall.

memo to Roadtrip:

You are referring to an annual marketing calendar that the Big 3 lived by back in the 1950s.

In 1964 Ford Motor Company rolled out a brand new model (The first gen Mustang) in the late Winter instead of Mid September, the traditional date for product releases.

There is no longer a strict calendar for product releases. Today's sales calendar is as sensitive to Federal Funds rates and other macro financial signals as it is to the respective company's marketing edicts.

"You are referring to an annual marketing calendar that the Big 3 lived by back in the 1950s. In 1964 Ford Motor Company rolled out a brand new model (The first gen Mustang) in the late Winter instead of Mid September, the traditional date for product releases. There is no longer a strict calendar for product releases. Today's sales calendar is as sensitive to Federal Funds rates and other macro financial signals as it is to the respective company's marketing edicts." ---- Posted by: papajim

That does not invalidate his question, PJ. Why is PUTC doing these articles NOW instead of when the trucks came out, regardless of what month it was? The '19s are due soon and the '18s have been on the market for a year or more.

It invalidates his statement because I said it does, Vulpine! You are free to disagree. So is he. The fact remains that formal product-release calendars went out the window.

Today's cars/trucks have micro chip technology that becomes obsolete too quickly to wait until September or some other arbitrary release just to satisfy some convention.

I have spanked you WAY too many times for you to doubt me on this stuff.

Product Releases:
I thought the Semiconductor Industry was bad at pre-releasing products, a year out or even further, to the point that they had a one page datasheet at best. All so they can leapfrog their competition. I would almost get into arguments with my marketing manager back in the day.
Now the auto-industry has joined hat. An inline6 Cummins Silverado from 1st announcement date to actual delivery is going to be over a year out if not 1.5yrs.? Eh marketing. Beware the consumer or you'll hand over deposit money and wait over 2 years for your product (Tesla $35k Model 3 version). Clearly, the future is bright! But one still has to wait a while for any real big beneficial changes.

here is the top of the line Frontier:
https://www.blueknobauto.com/used/Nissan/2018-Nissan-Frontier-duncansville+pa-4704a3780a0e08be2195fbae121a2d20.htm

@BeersButtsandTrucks
It does not have a Cummins( never will) but a Renault diesel that is pretty effective

I thing about Nissan is that they a bad design and ugly interiors just like the new titan.

An inline6 Cummins Silverado from 1st announcement date to actual delivery is going to be over a year out if not 1.5yrs?
Posted by: Angelo | Jul 5, 2018

It's called "knowing your customer."

For every Silverado 1500 diesel they sell to Joe Sixpack, they'll sell 3 to commercial customers.

Joe Sixpack buys a ton of trucks every year on impulse. Commercial customers never do. Commercial buyers start building their business plan a year ahead of time. So, they started building interest in the 1500 diesel 18 mos. ahead of time.

I’d buy 2017/18 Nissan Frontier with no drivetrain, 4 flat tires, and mice eaten electronics for MSRP before I’d ever consider purchasing a GM product.

GM sucks. Just like papajim

Nissan Frontier don't change for a decade, what kind of upgrades the author of article talking about?????? Back up camera is industry standard last 4-5 years, and gas guzzling 4.0 l engine is just a joke, Frontier has much worse mpg than any f-150 or ram 1500, and rear end can carry same as trunk of Honda civic, than what kind of upgrading we talking about, still 10y behind competitors, bring European navara to us market and than we can talk about change, other than that is still pretty miserable truck w low selling numbers, hope author of article get paid for that, miserable PR article

The answer is NOTHING.

Nothing has changed on the Frontier in years and nothing meaningful for a decade.

One of the best and most reliable trucks I own. I still drive my 2000 Frontier CC, bought new in 1999. Drives like a champ. She has battle scars, but she keeps on going. Very basic V6 engine of that time, so no high tech issues that would fail. Everybody is waiting for the new model to roll out, but then do not expect the price to be as low as what we see now.

[re: New Model] do not expect the price to be as low as what we see now....Posted by: joseph Varghese | Jul 6, 2018

@Joseph Varghese

Don't be confused by the hysteria from the RAM and Ford guys because their companies abandoned the mid size/compact market for US pickups. RAM's Jeep announcement did not create any excitement, and the Ford Ranger continues to be a "wait until next year" phenomenon.

They're jealous.

"It invalidates his statement because I said it does, Vulpine!"
--- Posted by: papajim

So you believe your opinion means more than anyone else's, no matter what. Yes, I do disagree and for very logical reasons, which I described. Your argument simply makes no sense since the models discussed are approximately a full year old. These article should have been posted over the past winter, not so close to when new models begin to appear. Hell, the '17s are almost gone in most cases simply because the '18s have been out so long and those '17s have been discounted down to the 'take a loss just to get it off the lot!" levels.

Granted, some brands held onto their '17s, producing them into the '18 season... FCA's Jeep Wrangler and Ram trucks, more notably. But Nissan? Toyota? GM? Not so easily.

"here is the top of the line Frontier:
...blueknobauto.com/used/Nissan/2018-Nissan-Frontier-duncansville+pa..." --- Posted by: Ecoboost Rules

Now if only that were a King Cab instead of a crew cab. I'm close enough I could take advantage of that sale.

You can build an 18 in 17. Can't build a 17 in 18.

- model year is regulated by U.S. Code -
In the United States, for regulation purposes (such as VIN numbering and EPA emissions certification), government authorities allow cars of a given model year to be sold starting on January 1 of the previous calendar year. For example, this means that a 2019 model year vehicle can legally go on sale on January 1, 2018 -end

https://www.blueknobauto.com/used/Nissan/2018-Nissan-Frontier-duncansville+pa-4704a3780a0e08be2195fbae121a2d20.htm

Vulpine

That's the mega dealer in my area, they sell 1200 vehicles a month.
They have 8 more , I just picked that one as an example.
The only problem you may have is they sell vehicles faster than they can update their website so the vehicle you want may be sold by the time you got there, and/or they may have another vehicle not yet posted to their site you may like better.
They will give you all alone all day test drive, all they do is photocopy your drivers license and they have a free carfax,, but there is NO negotiation on price, take their price or leave.

The fact remains that formal product-release calendars went out the window...I have spanked you WAY too many times for you to doubt me on this stuff.

@Vulpine

I stated a fact, not an opinion. There are no set dates for product release in the auto industry anymore.

The calendar approach died years ago. The second new cars/trucks hit the lot they're for sale. Period.

I agree with Vulpine I am more interested in knowing about the specs and pricing for the 2019 Frontier since I already have read about the 2018. Furthermore there have been several articles on the 2018 Frontier. I believe this article was more of a filler because of it was a slow news day.

here is NO negotiation on price, take their price or leave.
Posted by: Ecoboost Rules | Jul 6, 2018

@ER

Do you really believe that?

So if I make an offer that's one penny under their advertised price they'll turn it down? Rubbish!

There are dealerships that like to advertise a No Haggle Pricing but trust me, they'll take the deal if it works. Just like every other shop.

With specific regard to Nissan (and some other Asian brands) they don't have the sky-high MSRP pricing that the Big 3 advertise. Ford and GM sell trucks every day that are 20 percent off list.

Nissan will only discount about 10 percent at most locations and even then they have to be motivated to do it. Same with Honda. If you're looking at a Frontier from the prior year, like a 2017, they'll of course discount it more just to move it.

Agree with papajim on negotiating the price. Always offer less. If the dealer can get the asking price then so be it but what do you have to lose. You can always offer more or go to another dealer.

The REAL Jeff S

News since Pickuptrucks.com can't drum up anything new.
http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2018/07/general-motors-building-mini-pickup-in-china/
Oh, and the Mercedes pickup is rumoring a V8. google it.

Mercedes pickup is rumoring a V8? Pure speculation.

I’m really happy with my Frontier. Where I live we have to hunt in heavy brush so often times a full size truck is going to end up seriously scratched up. But my frontier gets me into all the spots and out with no problem. It tows my boat without complaint. And it fits in my garage! The only thing that would be nice is if they could up the fuel mileage by a couple clicks. But I love that 4.0 so I’m not sure I’d want them to change that. Maybe a few more gears on the tranny. The ride is fine despite what others may say.

papajim

nope! they will not sell it for a penny less!
their thinking is they sell so many vehicles the next guy will buy it tomorrow and they already discounted it to the lowest price possible
the only wiggle room they may give in on are the tires, if you don't like the make and design of the tires they will change the tires
this place sells a lot of vehicles, the place is jam packed, you have to wait for a salesman
you walk in a beautiful woman greets you, you show her the vehicle you want to look at , she makes a photocopy of your drivers licence and gives you the keys, you walk out alone find the vehicle and test drive yourself, they don't care how long you test drive as long as you're back before closing time, then if you want that vehicle you are assigned a salesman

(if you go make sure you tell the woman greeter how beautiful she is and she will tell you "I know, everybody tells me that")

papajim

I forgot to add:
When you return from the test drive the same beautiful woman will greet you again and ask you flat out if you want to buy the vehicle or not.
If you say "NO" then she will will, will make a seductive body contact with you and say in a baby voice"agghhh why not" or say "that will make me sad", or "what can I do to change your mind"?

I trick her! I lied to her, I told her "NO" but I really did want to buy that vehicle, I did that just so she can get sexy with me.

either way even if you don't want to buy any vehicle it's still worth the trip to meet that beautiful woman

When you return from the test drive the same beautiful woman will greet you again and ask you flat out if you want to buy the vehicle or not.

@Ecoboost Rules

Women have been responding to me that way since I was a kid.
I was 6 feet two inches in my junior year of high school.

You need to forget about negotiating car/truck deals and just buy a Chevy. It will last at least 10 years. By then the hot babe at the car showroom will be a grandmother, and you can focus on getting a better deal on your next truck.

@ ecoboost
Now that's sad, you sound like a little teenager that gets real shy around women LOL! You've got to go to the dealership to have a women talk to you, LMFAO

seems Robert Ryan first post is right on! US version of vechiles just got pooped on.

seems Robert Ryan first comment is right! The US version gets pooped on.

back in the 1990's the Nissan truck was called "Hard Body" that sounded sexy

Nissan marketing needs to bring that name back to increase sales

Sean

yea, you're right, I get nervous around beautiful women but I know the reason vehicle dealerships have them there is to attract more men customers like me
I mean you have to agree it works!

Walking into any vehicle dealer the first impression is everything, how well you were greeted.
At my local Ford Dealer they all know me by my name and that makes me feel welcome.

What I am getting at it's more about how you are treated at the dealer than the brand of truck you like. The main reason why I own a F-150 cause the dealer treats me wonderful. I admit I like the Ram better but the local Ram Dealer is a ahole and thats why I don't own one.

The Nissan 2018 is indeed a pickup truck. It has many improvements compared to the old car line and no less compared to models such as Ford Ranger or Colorado

@Ecoboost Rules

Women have been responding to me that way since I was a kid.
I was 6 feet two inches in my junior year of high school.

You need to forget about negotiating car/truck deals and just buy a Chevy. It will last at least 10 years. By then the hot babe at the car showroom will be a grandmother, and you can focus on getting a better deal on your next truck.

@papajim--Great comment. The dealer must see Ecoboost Rules coming.

I have had frontiers since 2001, love them,, V6 pulls like an 8, nimble handling, utilitarian interior, but I like it, not as cheap looking as a ram. Exterior not over the top, just looks like a truck should, not trying to be a sports car.