Ford Puts Raptor Engine in 2019 F-150 Limited

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Ford has just announced it will put its strongest pickup truck engine (that's not a diesel) into its top-of-the-line F-150 trim level, the Limited. That means if you must have the most opulent interior matched with the most powerful gas engine available, now you can do it.

Previously only available in the F-150 Raptor, the high-output 450-horsepower, twin-turbocharged 3.5-liter EcoBoost V-6 that generates 510 pounds-feet of torque will now be the standard engine for the 2019 Ford F-150 Limited model. The diesel engine will be optional. The Limited also will be the only Ford F-150 to sport a dual exhaust system.

The F-150 Limited will feature new Camel Back two-tone-leather laser-etched massaging front seats with an individually numbered nameplate on the center console. Standard Limited F-150 features will include a trailer brake controller, a 360-degree camera system, adaptive cruise control, lane keeping and pre-collision safety systems, Sync 3, Wi-Fi access and a Bang & Olufsen sound system.

Expect this to be the most expensive half ton you can buy; pricing will be released closer to its on-sale date later this year.

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The 5.3 AFM is the engine that is a disaster. Having to replace complete engines before 100000 miles is the definition of disaster.

@ FIF

Yet the 5.3L is still in production and your disaster AFM was a small number and were taken care of under warranty.

Can't say that about the horrendous Triton motors with all of their issues

Couple things.

The 3.5 ho is very similar to the 6.2 in that they are both halo motors and will always show up in upper trims.

The 6.2 and 5.3 mechanically are very similar. Just like the two 3.5’s Ford now sells.

This is being offered to challenge the Denali sales that have been making GM big coin for years. The volumes will be leas than the 6.2 Im guessing as Ford only allows it to be sold in limited trim. Gm offers the 6.2 acroos a number of trim levels now.

The Ford fanboys bashing GM for only offering it in Denali trim packages just got crow served up in a big way.

GM has offered the 6.2l at over 400 hp since 2007 and Ford has finally gotten around to offering a 400+ hp option now in 2019 just shows who is leading and who is following. You Ford guys really waited a long time to get a Denali like truck. Congratulations!

Last point.

I think the reason GM has been mum on power numbers for the 2019 is they were waiting for Ford to show their cards. They have done this in the past by tweaking output numbers on the diesels to get marketing bragging rights. I expect GM to have something higher output very shortly after launch. The have a 4.2l ttv8 already putting out between 550-700 hp and a 3.6ttv6 putting out 3.5 ho numbers for years now. A detuned supercharged 6.2 at 500 hp is a easy option as well.

At least Ford finally put together a halo truck with an upgraded drivetrain.

@ Clint you basically said the same thing I have. Very intelligent post. Ford has taken a page from gm and put their top in engine in the most expensive truck to try to get some people who would have bought the King ranch or platinum to buy the top spec limited just to get this engine.

What's insane is you could probably get a no frills raptor with this engine and do an aftermarket suspension upgrade to make it more tow/ haul friendly for $1000s cheaper then the top spec limited.

Truck will be fast as hell !!! But sound like a turd !!!

Should have the 7.0 with that power and no turbo's !!!

Not against Ford,but a Truck Company as Ford is they need a V8 ! You get the same mpg with a V8 or a V6 Twin Turbo !

Nice truck,quick and I bed Junior will get the keys one night and smack up Daddy's new 510 ft lb torque truck..Too much Power for Jr..

Not a fan of the Aluminum either,look at the crashes it peels the body panels and doors into the cab and injuring passengers..Truck looks good for a 2004 design,but aluminum can isnt good..

Not everyone wants all that power,especially with cheap aluminum body that you can take a pair of nail clippers and peel the Fords body right off !! We already did it to a totalled F 150..nail Clippers can peel the body panels off the truck,just odd !

Couple hundred $ tuner and bang!!!!! 500hp/600+ ft lbs. good times we live. Will be interesting to see what version of ecoboost GM will come out with to stay competive with Ford.

@ardwrken what gm product has the 4.2 tt v8 ? This is an engine I'm not familiar with

Couple hundred $ tuner and bang!!!!! 500hp/600+ ft lbs. good times we live. Will be interesting to see what version of ecoboost GM will come out with to stay competive with Ford.


Posted by: Boosted | Jul 27, 2018 10:49:08 AM

Problem is this motor really isnt much different than the regular 3.5. You might find the tuners dont get much more out of this than they get out of the stock 3.5. I have heard the turbos are different, possibly the heads but more aggressive tuning was also part of it. If Ford just primarily tunes the 3.5 to get the 450, it may be diminishing returns over a stock 3.5ttv6. Especially with the premium price tag.

Its like the mid 2000’s saabs. The only difference between the 175 hp 240 hp 2.0’s was the factory tune parameters.

That was a GM motor back in the early 2000’s. Dumping a turbo on a motor leveled the playing field for Ford. The mod motors were not competitive before. Remember Gm has had 400+ hp motors in half ton trucks since the mid 2000’s. Ford just found this bar that was raised by GM 12 years ago.

@ardwrken what gm product has the 4.2 tt v8 ? This is an engine I'm not familiar with


Posted by: Rowdy Douillard | Jul 27, 2018 11:17:21 AM

cadillac CT6-VSport. Johann was a big car guy and wanted this for a cadillac car. I think his vision and the market driving Suv’s may be why he was let go. Havent heard much lately but my guess is this may show up in an escalade as well.

Interesting motor. 32 valve Twin turbo v8 hot V design with cylinder deactivation.

Cylinder deactivation and turbocharging must present some desgin challenges. Interesting to see where it trickles down to and what power envelope it maintains.

https://media.cadillac.com/media/us/en/cadillac/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2018/mar/0321-twin-turbo-v8.html

2010 was the first year ford hit the 400 hp threshold for a 1/2 ton. 6.2 boss engine..... 2011 you could get it in a non raptor f150..... not 2019

@ tntgmc Where I work the 5.3 AFM caused GM to be took off the list for 1/2 ton trucks.

2010 was the first year ford hit the 400 hp threshold for a 1/2 ton. 6.2 boss engine..... 2011 you could get it in a non raptor f150..... not 2019


Posted by: Boosted | Jul 27, 2018 11:43:49 AM

You are correct. That motor was 411 hp for 4 years. The rest of it's life was 385 hp. It's only available as 385 hp today. So Ford had a 400 hp option for 4 years out of the last 12, until 2019.

I could still get 400 hp trucks from GM since 2007. The Ford 6.2 motor is almost a unicorn compared to how many GM 6.2's are out there.

@ tntgmc Where I work the 5.3 AFM caused GM to be took off the list for 1/2 ton trucks.


Posted by: frankinFL | Jul 27, 2018 12:12:47 PM


Where you work?

LOL

I need details on this. I mean this job you have.

I thought the Franks all worked fulltime posting on PUTC

You are correct. That motor was 411 hp for 4 years. The rest of it's life was 385 hp. It's only available as 385 hp today. So Ford had a 400 hp option for 4 years out of the last 12, until 2019.

I could still get 400 hp trucks from GM since 2007. The Ford 6.2 motor is almost a unicorn compared to how many GM 6.2's are out there.


Posted by: andrwken | Jul 27, 2018 12:21:09 PM

385 hp 6.2 isn’t 1/2 ton. Ford had over 400 hp available in 2010.

Ford is the first to break the 450 hp and 500 ft lb threshold in a 1/2 ton..... gm will most certainly follow ford’s lead and have a boosted v6 as its top engine in its 1/2 ton pickup line. 6.2 will be used in just cars as that is what is was designed for.

Gm’s 1/2 ton truck line up will be a diesel, their 2.7 4 cylinder, small displacement v8...5.3 or so, and a high hp and torque v6 turbo... maybe the Cadillac setup.

@ boosted

U go try to find a 6.2L in a have ton. My nephew is trying right now. Its crazy. They either have a ton of miles on them or the ones that have descent miles they want an arm and leg for. You can find a plethora of GM 6.2L out there

Oh BTW..the GM 6.2L get way better FE. The Ford 6.2L in half ton average 16 to 18!


Ford is the first to break the 450 hp and 500 ft lb threshold in a 1/2 ton..... gm will most certainly follow ford’s lead and have a boosted v6 as its top engine in its 1/2 ton pickup line. 6.2 will be used in just cars as that is what is was designed for.

Gm’s 1/2 ton truck line up will be a diesel, their 2.7 4 cylinder, small displacement v8...5.3 or so, and a high hp and torque v6 turbo... maybe the Cadillac setup.


Posted by: Boosted | Jul 27, 2018 12:32:49 PM

Couple of corrections you need here.

Your ecoboost v6 was derived from Mazda as a car engine. The mod motors got their first use in crown vics years before they were dumped in trucks. Throwing stones about car use motors in trucks? About as bad as trying to sell a Ford GT with a 5.4 triton in it.

The 2004-2006 ram SRT 10 was the most powerful pickup long before the raptors. 500hp/525tq viper engine. I dont believe thise numbers have been eclipsed yet.

A small displacement turbo v8 with cylinder shutoff would definitely get me shopping again. A mildly supercharged 6.2 would be a good stopgap for a year or two

You sound like your feelings are hurt. Here is a news flash for you. I was a Ford guy for decades. My dad and my uncles were Ford guys. Until the 1990s.

When the Ford Modular V8 came along it broke a lot of hearts, loyal Ford guys had 4.6s and 5.4s that had cooling system problems and cracked intakes and plastic junk all through the engine.

They should have just kept the Windsor V8 which was a good motor. The old Mustang 5.0 had a 302 Windsor and they were strong and durable engines.

The Modular V8 which by the way includes the new 5.0 has been a disaster for Ford fans.
Posted by: papajim | Jul 27, 2018 9:15:50 AM

Same here. I loved the old Windsor V8's. Ford management thought they needed to replace their durable pushrod V8's with OHC V8's because the public would perceive them as being more European and technologically advanced but they have been a reliability disaster for decades. The SOHC are slightly more reliable but they are way less efficient and couldn't even match the performance of the pushrod V8's of the time. Then Ford pushed forward with DOHC versions that have a dozen different engineering flaws that all lead expensive engines problems or destroyed engines. Even the Coyote, who's reliability is good only by Ford standards, has plenty of flaws. The latest Coyote 5.0 with dual fuel systems has all kinds of issues. It only takes a quick peek at the Mustang and F-150 forums to see the kinds of issues angry owners are dealing with. Ford should have continued advancing their pushrod V8's like GM and FCA have. Sure they don't rev to 8,000 RPM but they're reliable, fuel efficient, and easier to work on down the road.

Where I work the 5.3 AFM caused GM to be took off the list for 1/2 ton trucks.
Posted by: frankinFL | Jul 27, 2018 12:12:47 PM

Funny, where I work, the 3.5 eco-boost's junk timing chains and turbo failures caused them to be taken off the list. They stopped buying 6.7 Powerstrokes after a couple years and started buying Ram Cummins trucks.


Ford is the first to break the 450 hp and 500 ft lb threshold in a 1/2 ton..... gm will most certainly follow ford’s lead and have a boosted v6 as its top engine in its 1/2 ton pickup line. 6.2 will be used in just cars as that is what is was designed for.

Posted by: Boosted

I guess you don't realize that the 5.0 Coyote is the most car-like V8 in a truck today and has been since it was first put into production. The whole reason Ford started designing the 5.0 Coyote is because they needed a V8 for the Mustang to help it keep up with the upcoming Camaro and Challenger. The whole reason Ford got rid of their tried and true OHV V8's was because they wanted a "high tech" V8 for their cars. They came up with the 4.6 which went into cars first and eventually ended up in the trucks. Then they came up with a bigger 5.4L version that went into the trucks and some cars right off the bat.

I guess you also don't realize that the 3.5 eco-boost is based on a Mazda car engine and the 3.5 was used in cars and SUV's before Ford decided to put that same engine in a truck.

Ford, not GM or Dodge, are the ones that started putting car engines in their trucks. And as far as following leads, I seem to remember owning a turbocharged V6 truck back in the 90's. It was called a GMC Syclone. Maybe you've heard of it?

Obviously I like Fords but some their fans think they need to pat themselves on the back constantly while they credit Ford for everything that's even happened in the auto industry. Next you'll say that Ford invented gasoline and everybody else stole his idea.

Ecoboost in the 4 cylinder configuration is of Mazda design.... the v6 ecoboost from ford are not in the cyclone engine family. They share no parts or pieces with the Mazda Duratec v6

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Cyclone_engine

Ex-Ford Guy 56

That's a LIE !
there are no issues with timing chains and turbo failures on the 3.5 Eco-Boost

the ONLY issues it has is the early 2011's had a bad inner cooler design that was corrected in 2012 and the newer engines have throttle body problems, THAT'S IT

so go ahead and believe that lie while I own one that's trouble free plus getting 31 MPG

When I see a higher end F-150 Lariat with a 5.0 engine I think what a waste with a crap engine in such a nice truck, I guess that owner is stupid enough to believe all the LIES and more LIES that were spread about the Eco-Boost and I think what a fool, idiot !

"That's a LIE !
there are no issues with timing chains and turbo failures on the 3.5 Eco-Boost

the ONLY issues it has is the early 2011's had a bad inner cooler design that was corrected in 2012 and the newer engines have throttle body problems, THAT'S IT"

You might want to do a little research. I have spent half of my waking life in Ford trucks since I learned how to drive. The Ecoboosts are nice when they are new but they're kind of like the Tritons. There are a lot of issues things with the design that lead to a destroyed engine.

https://ford.oemdtc.com/1267/tickingtapping-or-rattle-type-noise-on-initial-start-up-2011-2015-ford-f-150

https://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/31-f150-ecoboost-problems/8204-ford-f150-3-5l-ecoboost-rattle-upon-start-up-timing-chain-stretch-issues-tsb.html

https://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/31-f150-ecoboost-problems/8162-timing-chain-stretch.html

https://www.f150forum.com/f70/2011-ecoboost-noise-start-up-204007/

https://www.f150forum.com/f70/broken-timing-chains-2011-ecoboosts-242220/

https://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/31-f150-ecoboost-problems/9333-1800-new-timing-chain.html

https://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/31-f150-ecoboost-problems/48513-tsb-17-2077-update-17-0007-2-7l-oil-consumption-blue-white-smoke-rough-idle.html

https://www.fordf150.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=123809

https://www.f150forum.com/f118/2016-17-f150-2-7l-oil-consumption-rough-idle-misfire-ex-smoke-tsb-17-2077-a-381323/

https://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/31-f150-ecoboost-problems/45490-new-2017-engine-failure.html

Ford needs to implement a new line of truck engines.

They should have a Sm-Med-Lg approach. Iron block, alloy heads. Drop the direct-injection. Don't go down the variable displacement rat-hole that GM and RAM did.

SOHC is a possibility but it's a mistake to write off push-rod design until the design team has really sorted it out. Ford won't want to copy GM but this is the process that General Motors undertook in the late 1990s and it worked for the.

Let the engineering team balance the key deliverables of performance vs fuel economy. Strive to include input from dealers and customers.

The goal is to produce the truck engine for the next 20 years.

Ford won't want to copy GM but this is the process that General Motors undertook in the late 1990s and it worked for THEM. [edit]

The 5.3 AFM is the engine that is a disaster. Having to replace complete engines before 100000 miles is the definition of disaster.
Posted by: frankinFL | Jul 27, 2018 9:48:21 AM

AFM lifters were an issue on some Gen IV 5.3's. The 2014+ Gen V V8's don't have 1/10th as many AFM lifter issues. And you're conveniently forgetting that Ford has just as many (if not more) roller rocker failures and hydraulic lash adjuster failures. Either one is results in the exact same damage as an AFM lifter failure. And your odds aren't good. There are only 8 AFM lifters in a V8. There are 32 hydraulic lash adjusters and 32 roller rockers in a 5.0, just waiting to wipe out a cam.

Not to mention that between the 3.5, 2.7, 5.0, and 5.4, every one of them has tallied as many "disasters" as the 5.3/6.2's.

Just go check out all the 2018 Mustang 5.0's and F-150 5.0's that have developed nasty issues that require new engines.

It's not a truck any more; it's a car with an open back porch.

There's an old saw, you know. It goes, "A fool and his money is soon parted." Anyone buying this isn't buying it for work, he's buying it for status and status alone. I feel sorry for anyone paying anywhere near MSRP for it. Even at half of MSRP, it's over-priced.

one more time.
gm's afm was a complete disaster. GM never got it to be reliable. Now it will be replaced with dynamic skip. This may work as it was invented by a non-GM company. GM has bought the company. Yes the 5.3 afm has cost GM much money and many customers.

gm's afm was a complete disaster. GM never got it to be reliable. Now it will be replaced with dynamic skip. This may work as it was invented by a non-GM company. GM has bought the company. Yes the 5.3 afm has cost GM much money and many customers.
Posted by: FrankinFlorida | Jul 28, 2018 9:53:21 PM

LOL GM has built over 4 million Ecotec3 AFM engines since 2014. I see more unreliable broken down Ecoboost engines than I do Ecotec3 engines. The few engines that need new lifters pales in comparison to all the Ecoboosts with stretched timing chains, blown headgaskets, blown turbos, thrown rods, faulty rockers.

Anyone buying this isn't buying it for work, he's buying it for status and status alone. I feel sorry for anyone paying anywhere near MSRP for it. Even at half of MSRP, it's over-priced.
Posted by: Vulpine | Jul 28, 2018

@vulpine

Your class-envy is showing, buddy. You sound pathetic when you go off on one of these jags. It's their money--let 'em have their fun. Why should you worry?

Do you drive anything that's even in the same realm---or less than 10 years old? Just let your hair down and enjoy life.

afm was a complete disaster. GM never got it to be reliable... the 5.3 afm has cost GM much money and many customers.
Posted by: FrankinFlorida | Jul 28, 2018

@FrankinFlorida

You should stick to something you actually know about.

A close relative of mine has two 5.3s

Both Suburbans. The construction-company car was a 2010 and was recently traded in; had almost 200k miles on it.

It was completely thrashed. A/C and brakes were the only maintenance expenses beyond oil changes and tires. This baby was whipped, too. Lots of city/suburbs driving in Florida. A/C running full blast about 3/4s of the year. Big loads.

Your story does not hold up. The new 2017 Suburban they have now is a glorious thing to behold. Mercedes Benz luxury at half the price.

I have a 2003 GMC Sierra 1500 with the 5.3. I bought it back in 2006 as a work commuter truck. I now have 357,000 miles and only had to replace my fuel pump. It has been unbelievably reliable. Thought about getting a newer one couple years ago but I kinda of get a thrill in seeing how far it'll go

Your out of your mind. The 5.0L in the trucks makes 395/400.....
The 6.2L in trucks makes 420/460. GM wins there

The 5.0L in cars 460/420
The 6.2L in cars 455/455

You can have your 5 hp and I'll take the 25 more ft lbs of tq. That's what gets u down the track.


Posted by: TNTGMC | Jul 27, 2018 9:14:10 AM
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Hey idiot

You forgot the Bullit Mustang

480 horsepower

@ PapaJoke

The 5.0L in every application is a great engine. GM doesn’t even have a naturally aspirated 6.2L that puts out the horsepower of the 5.0L. It’s a very advanced engine. It outpowers every version of the 6.2, let alone the truck 5.3. And even with the DFM, it equals the 5.0L in the F150, while being way down on HP and torque.

To say the 5.0L is a joke shows everyone your stupidity. And shows it in spades.

You moron.

Posted by: BA | Jul 27, 2018 8:45:54 AM

@ Fake BA
Lol did you read your comment, sounds like your the moron!

@ frank in Florida

U sure your not Frank? The one who insults and has no facts to back up his claim? I'll take any 5.3L (1999-2018) over any ecobust

@ BA..the fake one

Hey how about u insult some more u childish boy! The Bullit is a special edition. It just came out. Doesnt even have a review on it yet? I bet the TQ stayed the same at 420. Just upped the HP. Still won't hang with the super car camaro.

Yet, u mustang smucks will pay $20k more for it, while its performance numbers won't change compared to a stock GT mustang. But go ahead keep insulting bc it makes you look so much more intelligent then me!?! NOT!!

@ Paul
I believe it. My father in law has an 05' with 273,000 and runs great

Don't forget to stop in to my new shop for your bleaching session. Pay for one bleaching at full price and receive another visit for 1/2 off. This would be a great way to show a friend how much you care by letting them have their bleaching session at 1/2 price!!!

I really hate it when they make buy this to get that. Bring back the cvo lightning.

This is not fair!!!!

Ford is fully capable of building a V8 cranking out specs like this, but they're hitched to the ecotoot gimmick for EPA compliance.

Posted by: Muh Ferd | Jul 26, 2018 12:46:58 PM

I wish Ford would have stayed with the Windsor V-8's, but the EcoBoost are pretty amazing. Nothing gimmicky about them. You can haul azz or get really good fuel economy. The exhaust note sucks, but the turbo whine has it's own special place. I was reluctant too. And then, I drove one.....

You call these facts, getfvck0utth3re, I stand correct, you're an idiot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkER_VbeJ2A

Posted by: Frank | Jul 26, 2018 4:52:12 PM

You can't do that Frank! In 2016 the 6.2 beat the 3.5 EcoBeast. Nobody on here wants to hear that the 3.5 can beat the 6.2 now that it has more than 6 speeds. The Raptor weighs about 500 lbs more than the Limited and has bigger rubber and it beats the 6.2. If Ford can get the Limited to hook up, it will truly embarrass GM's big V-8. None of that .1 second stuff.

GMSRGREAT found a fix for the shaky Silverado!! Here he is hard at work!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O40K2FluTUA



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