2020 Ford Super Duty Sports New Grilles: Spied

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We're beginning to see more 2020 Ford Super Duty prototypes on the road as the automaker enters the final testing stages for the refreshed heavy-duty pickup trucks. Up to this point, we've only seen rare glimpses of the HDs being transported from one facility to another. Now we're beginning to see more variations, with some hints about how the front grilles will change. Here's what our spy shooters are seeing and hearing about the updated F-Series heavy haulers.

"The face of today's Super Duty is defined by its two thick horizontal bars that fully envelope the massive Ford oval and dominate the grille opening. There are variations that strike out the central portion of the horizontal grille bars, but they're still hinted at in the alternate designs. The latest prototypes show a new take on the Super Duty's grille details, providing a lighter, more open grille area for a less heavy-handed look."

Super Duty Chassis Cab

"Our new shots of the Super Duty chassis crew-cab prototype cut through the front grille mesh, giving us a revealing look at one of the new grille designs. The new grille gets a pair of thinner horizontal bars, leaving an open area that runs through the center of the grille. The center section of the Ford oval now floats in the open-air grille section with the horizontal grille bars intersecting with only a fraction of the top and bottom of the badge. Open-air slits also reside at the top and bottom of the grille opening, framed in the horizontal bars."

Super Duty Long Bed

"The Super Duty crew-cab long-bed prototype shows another sportier grille design. This new grille uses a new take on the dual horizontal grille bar theme, but the bars are much thinner and farther apart. This new chiseled design has a taller open section running horizontally through the center of the grille, which leaves the Ford oval floating in the center of the grille. The horizontal bars appear to be tied to the top and bottom of the grille opening, resulting in what appears to be two open slots above and below the oval. A thin detail emanates from each side of the oval, helping to visually anchor the badge in the center of the grille."

F-350 Super Duty Dually

"The grille design on the F-350 dually prototype shows an open grille area without many of the details visible in the other grille designs. This grille design looks much cleaner than anything in the current Super Duty lineup and has some visual similarities to the 2019 F-150 grille on the Sport Package."

Behind the New Grilles

"Our sources report that the 'comprehensive mid-cycle change' is expected to be more than just a stylistic update. They say that a new V-8 engine — and the implementation of the Ford/GM 10-speed transmission — are on tap and will likely be offered in conjunction with a new exterior design update that resides beneath this graphic camouflage.

"The timing of releasing the refreshed Super Duty is key for Ford as the changes will likely try to counter the all-new HD trucks from Chevrolet/GMC and heavily overhauled HD trucks from Ram, all also due out for model-year 2020. Just as the release of the updated 2018 F-150 was well-timed and is expected to keep the GM/Ram light-duty trucks at bay, Ford's Super Duty strategy will try to work the same marketplace magic."

KGP Photography images

 

Super Duty Chassis Cab

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Super Duty Long Bed

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F-350 Super Duty Dually

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Behind the New Grilles

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Comments

Hoodwink
ill give it to you!! But, remember, I came up with it first! now that's a fact you dumb@$$

I don’t care if you drove 5000 cars - means nothing
Posted by: Grnzel | Aug 29, 2018

Your perspective is appreciated for its full value (zilch).

Gms Remember you will go to hell for lying same as stealing.

Posted by: FrankinFlorida | Aug 29, 2018 1:04:54 PM

Lying about what?

When GM went bankrupt they abandoned Topkicks and Kodiaks. There were no parts available for year old vehicles. There is a lot of fleet managers who have not forgot this.

Posted by: just the truth | Aug 29, 2018 12:49:44 PM

There are a lot of fleet managers that didn't forget how absolutely awful the Powerstroke was after Ford killed off the 7.3. The 6.0 and 6.4 were two of the worst diesel engines sold in the last 20 years. The 6.4 is not as bad as the 6.0 but repair parts for the 6.4 are ridiculously expensive and they inevitably need very expensive head jobs by the time they hit 200k. Not to mention Ford has slowly made the front end worse as they try to made the soft like a halfton. My brother is a linesman and I was shocked to hear him, a devout "Ford guy", complain that his 2013 F-350 boom truck goes through ball joints faster than any of the Chevy 3500's in their fleet. He likes his truck but you can hear the frustration in his voice when he talks about the front end problems.

Also, merit of the truck is rarely how it's decided which trucks a fleet customer buys. Price usually the biggest factor and Ford is very aggressive when it comes to pricing. It probably helps that Ford builds their diesel engines in Mexico to drive down the cost of building the truck.

I have a spastic colon and just $hit myself. Be back later.

@ drools


U clown @$$ I used hoodwink for YOU and your posse

Your so stupid you can't even figure that out!

Please insert foot. Get a helmet and put up padding on your walls.

@FIF

You don't ever speak.over my head. First look at the link and my articles are from magazines. You can have excuse after excuse why you don't open them but we all know its BC actual factual data is in the article and it goes against your Ford kool aide lies.

Is it true that FCA might merge with Ford? Will it be called Ford-Fiat-Chrysler or Fiat-Ford-Chrysler? FFCA?

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2018/08/29/ford-credit-rating-junk/1135563002/

Wow how much longer is Ford going to stick with Jim Hackett as CEO? This fitness plan doesn't seem to be moving fast enough.

This new grille will push the super duty to finally beat the Duramax after 19 years!! Wait! GM will have an ALL new HD truck out by then. Who follows who?


Posted by: TNTGMC | Aug 29, 2018 7:22:45 AM

TFL Hall of solo 0-60:
Heavy Duty 0-60 MPH at a Mile Above Sea Level
Year Make Model 0-60 MPH (sec)
2018 Ford F-350 Crew 4×4 6.7L (4.10 gears) 7.82
2017 Ford F-350 Crew 4×4 6.7L (4.10 gears) 8.02
2015 Ford F-350 Crew 4×4 6.7L (3.73 gears) 8.17
2017 Chevy Silverado 3500 Crew 4×4 6.6L 8.74
2014 Ram 2500 Crew 4×4 6.7L 8.91
2015 GMC Sierra Crew 3500 SRW 4×4 6.6L 9.35
2014 Ram 2500 Crew 4×4 6.4L (4.10 gears) 9.59
2017 Ram Power Wagon 6.4L (4.10 gears) 9.75
2018 Ram 3500 Crew DRW 4×4 6.7L (4.10 gears) 10.09
2017 Ram 3500 Crew DRW 4×4 6.7L 10.19
2016 Ram 3500 Crew DRW 4×4 6.7L 10.26

@ full of cr@p

You of all people rant on here telling made up stories. What a joke you are....still have any proof of a 2.7L thats faster at or below sea level...thought so!


Posted by: TNTGMC | Aug 29, 2018 1:01:34 PM

You "own" (wink wink) a 6.2, but lose your mind and are scared to death of a tiny little 325 HP 375-400 lb ft engine. Why? Don't be scared weirdo.

how much longer is Ford going to stick with Jim Hackett as CEO?

@Erik the red

Wrong question. The real question is how long will Hackett keep putting up with Ford's dysfunctional Board of Directors?

Hackett is a first-class and very skilled exec. Ford's board is a mess.

At sea level:

2015 XLT 2.7L EcoBoost SuperCab (6.6 ft. Bed) 4x4 6A 5.7 sec Car and Driver

2017 LTZ Z71 Midnight Edition Crew Cab (5.8 ft. Bed) 4x4 8A 7.0 sec Motor Trend

2016 LTZ Z71 Crew Cab (5.8 ft. Bed) 4x4 8A 7.2 sec Car and Driver

2016 LTZ Z71 Crew Cab (5.8 ft. Bed) 4x4 8A 6.7 sec Motor Trend

2014 High Country 6.2L Crew Cab (5.8 ft. Bed) 4x4 6A 6.0 sec Motor Trend


Goodnight TNTGretta. Let your bashing and excuses rage on. The 6.2 is a good engine even if you tell some tall tales about mpg. Just because my 2.7 will run nearly identical performance times and even faster 0-60 by some test results doesn't take anything away from the GM power plant. I'm a man, I can give credit where it's do even tho your too childish to.

@ ecobust roast
Great facts! About time you post something factual!

The 2.7L is a super cab though. Not a crew cab. Common man! U know the weight difference there. Let's here your excuses though!/it ought to be good!

I do own a 6.2. Haha...I love the power, FE, and V8 rumble from exhaust. I could care less if u believe me or not. Im not the one bringing it up constantly like your childish @$$ does. So obviously I touched a nerve!

Again congrats on having a small 2.7L with 2 turbos propelling your truck, keep on top of it so your dont throw a timing chain! They have known issues!
I'll take my reliable and durable V8 all day long

If u drove a 5.0L coyote I would give u way more credit. Better engine and truck all around!!! So I do give credit where its due!!

Have great night

Look at last 3 years of PUTC 3/4 ton and 1 ton comparisons. GM duramax has won those performance numbers !

But you are correct on your TFL ones. Great job. Now we are getting somewhere! I'm so proud of you posting facts! Doesnt feel actually good knowing what your talking about?!?!

Here is TFL video on 2017 heavy haulers. Your Super Duty fell flat on its face!

https://youtu.be/2GxztJit22A

Let's here it now?//

Wrong question. The real question is how long will Hackett keep putting up with Ford's dysfunctional Board of Directors?

Hackett is a first-class and very skilled exec. Ford's board is a mess.
Posted by: papajim | Aug 29, 2018 7:35:46 PM


That could be. I'll admit that I don't know the entire story about what he's dealing with right now. It sounds like he's identified some of the problems with their current business model. They offer far too many different configurations - a Focus that can have 67 (rough guess at what the article mentioned) different configurations. That's too many for such low-margin product. There's a reason why GM restricts the number of configurations with their trucks. The more configurations, the higher the cost of making them. It'll probably be a battle for him to change how many F-150 configurations they offer. Ford also fell asleep while the popularity of the crossover exploded. And Ford wasted a lot of money developing the Lincoln Continental, which looks like a sales flop judging by the sales figures. It's a shame because the car seems great.

The duramax (dirtymax) is third in sales. That there is a fact.

So clearly there's not much more they can do with these.


2015 XLT 2.7L EcoBoost SuperCab (6.6 ft. Bed) 4x4 6A 5.7 sec Car and Driver

2017 LTZ Z71 Midnight Edition Crew Cab (5.8 ft. Bed) 4x4 8A 7.0 sec Motor Trend

2016 LTZ Z71 Crew Cab (5.8 ft. Bed) 4x4 8A 7.2 sec Car and Driver

2016 LTZ Z71 Crew Cab (5.8 ft. Bed) 4x4 8A 6.7 sec Motor Trend

2014 High Country 6.2L Crew Cab (5.8 ft. Bed) 4x4 6A 6.0 sec Motor Trend

Posted by: 2.7EcoBoostRoost | Aug 29, 2018 7:40:09 PM

2014 High Country 6.2 L CrewCab ( 5.8 ft. Bed) 5.4 seconds 0-60.

Here is the link to back it up.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-chevrolet-silverado-62l-v-8-4x4-test-review

Checkmate

Ford downgraded by Moody's to one level above junk status

@papa
Look at the bright side... at least we agree on something - we each feel each other’s point of view is worthless. Ha!

@ ecoboost roast

In case u forgot

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2017/05/whats-the-best-34-ton-premium-truck-for-2017.html

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2017/08/whats-the-best-one-ton-heavy-duty-pickup-for-2017.html

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2018/07/2018-one-ton-heavy-duty-truck-challenge-how-we-tested.html

Looks like Duramax is supreme to me


Posted by: TNTGMC | Aug 29, 2018 8:44:07 PM

Hoodwink

i knew you would come around Ford got 1st place in both those competitions thanks for sharing those facts

They offer far too many different configurations

@Erik the red

I presume you realize that the big systems vendor/developers like SAP, PeopleSoft and Oracle (and IBM) worship configurators because they have spent the last 25+ years competing to build the best make-to-order systems. Ford simply ran with it.

If I'm buying an $80k car or pickup, the idea of configuring a perfect car or truck sounds pretty good. The problem Ford encountered which is perhaps what you're alluding to is the idea that Compact Sedan/Coupe buyers are simply price-motivated and config is a nice-to-have feature they won't pay and extra dime for.

Result? Ford dealers end up with too much inventory


Ford downgraded by Moody's to one level above junk status


Posted by: HEMI V8 | Aug 29, 2018 11:39:48 PM

HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHA

FORD VEHICLES ARE JUNK JUST LIKE THEIR COMPANY STOCK IS!!!

HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA

HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT CHINGON?? HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA

@ TNTGAY

@ ecoboost roast

In case u forgot

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2017/05/whats-the-best-34-ton-premium-truck-for-2017.html

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2017/08/whats-the-best-one-ton-heavy-duty-pickup-for-2017.html

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2018/07/2018-one-ton-heavy-duty-truck-challenge-how-we-tested.html

Looks like Duramax is supreme to me


Posted by: TNTGMC | Aug 29, 2018 8:44:07 PM
——————————-

You really are a moron. The Ford SD came out on top 2 out of 3 of those comparisons.

It’s like shooting fish in a barrel with you. And that’s a fact.

Hoodwink

i knew you would come around Ford got 1st place in both those competitions thanks for sharing those facts

Posted by: Ford Rules GM Drools | Aug 30, 2018 7:04:19 AM

You really are a moron. The Ford SD came out on top 2 out of 3 of those comparisons.

It’s like shooting fish in a barrel with you. And that’s a fact.

Posted by: BA | Aug 30, 2018 8:43:27 AM

Yous two are so proud of your subjective points winner and fail to acknowledge that the Ford was outperformed in all three comparisons. Good........for..........yous!

Its funny when you talk about history, and sales...

Top 10 of all time, ever, so far, PERIOD.

https://www.autoblog.com/photos/historys-10-bestselling-cars-of-all-time/

3 Fords, one of which is the F series, no other trucks at all.

NO GMs. No Fiats. At all.


Posted by: Clint | Aug 29, 2018 12:02:43 PM

When you use the same naming convention for the last 30 years, you can get those types of recognition.

What also comes with that recognition of nameplate is that the f-series is also the most recalled vehicle of all time, along with 2 other Fords rounding out the top 5. I think Ford had 4 or 5 of the top 10. Gm only had one vehicle at 7(Malibu).

Take the good with the bad bud....

Yous two are so proud of your subjective points winner and fail to acknowledge that the Ford was outperformed in all three comparisons. Good........for..........yous!


Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Aug 30, 2018 9:53:39 AM

your so proud that your Duramax won the performance comparisons but cannot win the entire competition what you fail to realize is when it comes to towing there is more to towing than whats under the hood,
however i was not impressed with the 1 ton competition, Ford needs to a better job than that plain and simple
after 18 years i do believe that GM finally has a good HD contender

The 2.7L is a super cab though. Not a crew cab. Common man! U know the weight difference there. Let's here your excuses though!/it ought to be good!

I do own a 6.2. Haha...I love the power, FE, and V8 rumble from exhaust. I could care less if u believe me or not. Im not the one bringing it up constantly like your childish @$$ does. So obviously I touched a nerve!

Again congrats on having a small 2.7L with 2 turbos propelling your truck, keep on top of it so your dont throw a timing chain! They have known issues!
I'll take my reliable and durable V8 all day long

If u drove a 5.0L coyote I would give u way more credit. Better engine and truck all around!!! So I do give credit where its due!!

Have great night

Posted by: TNTGMC | Aug 29, 2018 8:28:52 PM

Super cab 4x4 curb weight is 4,805 lbs. Super Crew curb weight is 4,858 lbs. In a stock truck test it is a "run what you brung". Not a "If this truck had a super charger", "If this truck weighed less" excuse fest. If the 2019 Chevy weighed 3,000lbs and came with a 500hp super charged 6.2 they would have an advantage and Ram and Ford would have to do some home work. That's life. As far as the heavy duty segment, I could care less. I will never be in that market. I honestly like the Ram the best because to me, the Cummins is the most proven even if it is slower. I wouldn't be buying it to race it. 2.7 EB have no timing chain issues. That was the early 3.5's up to 2014.5 before they were revised and it was mostly related to oil viscosity and breakdown from extended drain intervals. You wanna talk about facts, stop spreading b.s.

That was the early 3.5's up to 2014.5 before they were revised and it was mostly related to oil viscosity and breakdown from extended drain intervals. You wanna talk about facts, stop spreading b.s.
Posted by: 2.7EcoBoostRoost | Aug 30, 2018 3:17:37 PM

The 3.5 Ecoboost has still had issues with timing chains. The root cause is the massive blow-by that dumps significantly more abrasive carbon into the crankcase. The injectors Ford uses on their DI turbo engines are also known for dumping a lot of unburned fuel into the engine oil, thinning down the oil. Between the gas diluted oil and the amount of abrasive carbon in the oil, it's a slurry that wears down timing chains, cam phasers, plastic guides, bearings, rings, etc. There was no "fix" in 2015. The 2018 3.5 EB has a redesigned timing chain that's larger and VVT solenoid oil passages that are much bigger. There was a reason Ford made that change and it was because they knew that the previous design used up through 2017 has issues.

The biggest issue with the 2.7EB isn't timing chains although they are started to have that problem as more of them have enough miles for the issue to show up. I've even seen timing chain sprockets crack and break, destroying the engine. No, the major issue with the 2.7EB are the cheap heads Ford used. The valve guides wear out or are out-of-spec leading to massive oil consumption when the valve seals start to leak. Others start to wobble and cause the valves to crack and break off. I'm also starting to see 2.7EB with cracked heads.

Fake news attacks. That's all.

I totally agree with FXDX 1450!

Why is Gretta boasting about the Duramax when she drives a half-ton.


Waste of sperm. Kill yourself.

@ ford drools

The Duramax won all the performance categories. It outperformed the competition. Wow you still didnt buy your helmet little man

@ Frank guy

U own nothing, so u shouldn't comment at all.

Please insert foot Neanderthal!

I totally agree with FXDX 1450!


Posted by: TNTGMC | Aug 30, 2018 5:55:49 PM

You're probably FXDX1450 so I'd imagine you would agree with yourself. Do a search, you'll find the facts, and what she posted is highly inaccurate jibberish. I can't keep educated you. I have a life. I'm going to go wax my really fast tiny motored #1 selling pickup truck.

2014 High Country 6.2 L CrewCab ( 5.8 ft. Bed) 5.4 seconds 0-60.

Here is the link to back it up.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-chevrolet-silverado-62l-v-8-4x4-test-review

Checkmate


Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Aug 29, 2018 11:09:39 PM

Yes and when C & D tested the 2015 8A 6.2 it came in slower @ 5.7 seconds. That is the best I have seen the 8A test, so I guess that is progress to GM. Maybe you can find a new 2014 on a dealer lot somewhere? Sounds reasonable. BTW, I never said the 6.2 is slow. I just stated the fact that in it's current configuration, the much smaller and less powerful 2.7 EB has put up nearly identical performance numbers across the board. If that hurts andy of your 5 usernames feelings, I'm sorry, but sometimes the truth hurts.

@ ecobust

Your in denial you clown. What model do u own. U crew or super?

You stated that a 2.7L is faster its not!! It does not beat a 6.2L.

I never once said your 2.7L wasnt fast. I said and GMSRGREAT said it won't beat a 6.2L. You change your story constantly.

Go trade that thing in for a 5.0L. Way better motor and you will have a sweet exhaust note too...that's not coming from speakers

You sure your not FrankinFlorida or just the truth. All sound the same

The crew cab in C/D was 4721lbs....2 wheel drive


The super cab was 4874 lbs. In 4 wheel drive.

Know your facts. You LIED.

You stated over 5,000 lbs.

You have b@lls to call me out but yet dont know actual weight and your off by over 150 lbs.....whose the liar and non intelligent one here...YOU

Here's the article with weight!!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.caranddriver.com/amp/reviews/2018-ford-f-150-27l-ecoboost-v-6-4x2-supercrew-test-review


@Gretta,
Thanks for the link. Good read. And I quote:

"The 2.7-liter EcoBoost was quick before and is even quicker now, smoking the last Chevrolet Silverado we tested with its 355-hp 5.3-liter V-8 (7.2 seconds to 60) and even running an almost dead heat with the burlier, 420-hp 6.2-liter Chevy (5.7 seconds)."

The crew cab in C/D was 4721lbs....2 wheel drive


The super cab was 4874 lbs. In 4 wheel drive.

Know your facts. You LIED.

You stated over 5,000 lbs.

You have b@lls to call me out but yet dont know actual weight and your off by over 150 lbs.....whose the liar and non intelligent one here...YOU

Here's the article with weight!!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.caranddriver.com/amp/reviews/2018-ford-f-150-27l-ecoboost-v-6-4x2-supercrew-test-review

Posted by: TNTGMC | Aug 30, 2018 7:31:12

Thank's for noticing my b@lls! I can't comprehend your gibberish. Where did I say anything about 5000lbs? I referenced a 4x4 SuperCab vs a 4x4 SuperCew and their specs came right from Ford's site. "Super cab 4x4 curb weight is 4,805 lbs. Super Crew curb weight is 4,858 lbs." You are so mental that you make stuff up constantly. Get a grip girl!!

You stated that a 2.7L is faster its not!! It does not beat a 6.2L.

I never once said your 2.7L wasnt fast. I said and GMSRGREAT said it won't beat a 6.2L. You change your story constantly.

You sure your not FrankinFlorida or just the truth. All sound the same


Posted by: TNTGMC | Aug 30, 2018 7:16:46
I said it has tested as fast (5.7 0-60) as the 6.2 8 speed. You are a head case dude.

Either way, who cares if the 2.7EB or GM 6.2 is faster, but one thing is for sure: neither engines can be had with a manual transmission, so neither are "real" trucks.

You both lose.

Either way, who cares if the 2.7EB or GM 6.2 is faster, but one thing is for sure: neither engines can be had with a manual transmission, so neither are "real" trucks.

You both lose.


Posted by: FormerFordFanboyToTheExtreme | Aug 30, 2018 11:40:40 PM

TNT can't drive a manual. He can only make up fake news and misquote everybody that he argues with.

@ ecoboost roost

Lies....if your going to state an article ...give correct specs.

The article above have correct specs of the 5.7 secs posted by the super cab and the 5.9 secs posted by the super crew..I know u struggle with honesty and integrity bc you drive a Ford and they lie constantly!

My advice, learn to post correctly! I have a grip! U dont...

You said it was faster...
Your so frank in Florida or just the truth. Jekyll and Hyde here

Hey I had civil debates with you till you started insulting my username and brought my wife into it.

BTW...what trim and cab configuration do u own with your 2.7

I like the current SuperDuty grille. Hope they don't change too much.

1993 called ford, they said they want their truck back LMBO!



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