And we hope Ford will eventually offer a manual transmission option.

@PUTC

You were reading my mind. Nice looking truck

think how much better it would sell with square wheel wells!

You would think with the fact they just borrowed this truck directly from the global version, they could really bring this in at a competitive price point out the gate.

it's not like there's any major engineering that was done to this vehicle to bring it to the states.

Time will tell.

This is papajim's next truck.

they could really bring this in at a competitive price point out the gate, it's not like there's any major engineering that was done to this vehicle to bring it to the states....Posted by: andrwken

I'm sure it sounds like a broken record, but it is all about the what the dealers want. They know exactly what the general public is looking for and what they're willing to spend.

You think you'll save $ because of the design? Being all new here with a new engine, 10 speed, front and rear, and a ton of tech features suggests otherwise. But it will be competitive of course.

We already know what the build prices are.

You would think with the fact they just borrowed this truck directly from the global version, they could really bring this in at a competitive price point out the gate.

it's not like there's any major engineering that was done to this vehicle to bring it to the states.

Time will tell.

Posted by: andrwken | Oct 13, 2018 10:02:27 AM

Ford has taken this pricing approach knowing full well that Ranger success will come at the expense of the F-series, mainly their little full size the F-150. Look for the usual supplier constraint excuses as Ford attempts limit Ranger availability while it manages the cannibalism of their F-series.

The Colorado also was mostly designed elsewhere. Did it get cheaper because of engineering costs? No, it got more expensive.

@papajim
You are living in hope.

The reality is the US pickup market will never be the same as the past.

Many who blog on this site only look into the 'grand old days'.

Look at what is impacting and going to impact your pickup market. Exactly what killed the road barges of yesteryear. CAFE.

Pickups will gradually rise in price, until many can't afford them.

Already the majority of the US population can't afford a pickup, that's why most drive 4 cylinder cars.

@papajim
You are living in hope.

The reality is the US pickup market will never be the same as the past.

Many who blog on this site only look into the 'grand old days'.

Look at what is impacting and going to impact your pickup market. Exactly what killed the road barges of yesteryear. CAFE.

Pickups will gradually rise in price, until many can't afford them.

Already the majority of the US population can't afford a pickup, that's why most drive 4 cylinder cars.

@Mr Australia

You have been predicting bad news and recessions ever since the last recession. When the current president won the White House---2 years ago---you commented that you and your friend over at the IMF were predicting the end of the 2009 bull market. I called you out then and I still do---because you're simply wrong.

American workers today have a better standard of living and pay less in federal taxes than they did 2 years ago. Consumer confidence surveys consistently reveal a more upbeat tone and stronger economic momentum.

Since you last predicted financial doom for America's markets the Dow is up almost 10,000 points.

America's market cap has doubled since the end of the Clinton presidency in January 2001. During that same amount of time Australia closed its last auto factory and now outsources the manufacturing of key consumer goods.

Please get in touch with Christine Lagarde and ask her how to respond to my comments without making a fool of yourself.

Now only if Ford offered the truck with the Duratorq diesel in it with the manual behind it in the no-frills stx or even an xl 4x4. That would be a choice truck....but its not gonna happen here in the states. Especially when we like to drink, eat and text while we drive too much to worry about shifting gears. Other than that Taurus-ey front end it doesnt look too bad. Still though...would be cooler with the diesel but I'm sure the federal emissions would wreak havoc on the reliability of it and hang a bunch of smog junk on it like the rest of em. If I was a buyer I wouldnt even think of the v6 and get that 4 banger turbo.

Hmmm, what percentage of GM mid size sales were taken from GM full size..? If the answer is none from the GM support team, then there will be none on the Ford side of life.

Who wants real bumpers? This isn't 2017. Look at the #1 selling Colorado! Jelly bean front end styling with plastic bumper covers are all the rage. Only a hoodwink would buy this !!

Big Al-- This is an insightful link into the consequences of income disparity. Most of the guys on this site assume that the ability to afford full size loaded down trucks will last forever not realizing that what created the American dream is no longer true.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014_full.html#.U7GSFTlVpG5

@andrewekn
All Ford Rangers are designed and developed in Australia including the American version

@papajim
Not Mr All, but news about Australia and the outside world is hard to find in the US
Yes Capital goods are manufactured in Australia in including surprisingly Military Equipment
My concern is with Ford in the US, now down to junk bond status

Al cannot bear to simply stand behind what he writes, so he "borrows" Jeff S and his ID from time to time.

In his typically sociopathic form, today Al uses a 5 year old story from a leftist web-magazine to illustrate some point that was bogus back then, and is utterly irrelevant today.

The constant refrain from Al is that the US is on the verge of becoming the basket case of the world's economies, ironically at a time when the new White House has led the US to new heights in virtually EVERY measurement you can name. Who knows why.

@Robert Ryan

The news for Australia sadly is not good. After many years of solid performance the natural resources sector of your economy (plus/minus 10 percent) is slipping.

80 percent of your workforce is employed in the services sector precisely because your industrial base is running out of gas.

There are only so many cheeseburgers & chips you guys can fry up for each other before the whole emphasis on services pulls down the rest of the boat.

You once had a vibrant auto industry but Korea (and Thailand) put the screws to that. This is why the government has shifted so much emphasis to military production. Sooner or later they'll start rattling the sabres and pick a fight with China. Good luck.

Do you honestly see a light at the end of the tunnel?

I am a huge fan of the Ford Ranger and I was very sad when I heard that they stopped the production of the truck. I'm so excited to see the new truck in person and they have made it better more like the F-150 for cargo and towing capacity let do this thank you ford

Looks to much like a Honda Ridgeline, needs some stronger lines.

Looks too much like a Honda Ridgeline, needs some stronger lines....Posted by: wayne c owens | Oct 13, 2018

@Mr Owens

Get some glasses please. If you've never needed corrective glasses before, you do now.

@papajim
Maybe News to you, but we still do 80-85% of US jobs are in the service sector . Manufacturing is still contracting in the US, high end manufacturing has expanded continually in Australia in the last 3 years abd it is picking up momentum
Your manufacturing base could collapse(GM being a celebrated fail before the GFC)
We live in interesting times

BigFoolfromOz, ÇAFE was killed off by the T admin months ago. A truck like the F150 only has to get 19 mpg on the window sticker. Try to keep up.

Not a fan at all. Looks like a Taurus! Wonder if it will have recalls for fires?

I see the new Ford GT is getting recalled for fires. UNREAL!

Ford GT 🔥 hahaha

Maybe News to you, but we still do 80-85% of US jobs are in the service sector

@Robert

Please translate the above sentence into English

@Wayne C Owens
Ridgeline has more of a wedge shape in frontal looks.

@papajim
80-85% of US jobs arw part of the service sector

@Robert

Cite a source please.

Please be sure to utilize only data from 2017 and 2018. Obama-era data is statistically suspect, and is also badly out of date.

I presume you are acting in good faith and the raw data you have is too old to be useful.

@papajim
10% of all jobs is in manufacturing. Services make up 80% Civil construction agriculture and mining maje up the rest
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-05/service-industries-in-u-s-grow-by-most-in-at-least-10-years

I see the new Ford GT is getting recalled for fires. UNREAL!

Posted by: TNTGMC | Oct 13, 2018 6:45:13 PM

Check out the link below to watch the GT get pommelled by cars costing a fraction of the of the GT, including the corvette ZR1.

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/lightning-lap-2018

@Robert

As I stated previously I want to believe that you're debating in good faith, but a careful reading of your article on the ultra liberal Bloomberg website focused entirely on a single MONTH of data, January 2018.

I admire the journalistic skill and the respect for the truth you'll find on Bloomberg's site, but their political orientation is a clear reflection of their founder, former New York City mayor Bloomberg. Very liberal.

Sadly you did not cite a broader sweep of data.

The Bloomberg article you cited exclusively focused on services activity and showed no data regarding the vastly improving American manufacturing economy.

American steel companies are building new mills.

Ore producers are opening new mines. Despite the whining we hear in the press, the White House's decision to battle imports of cheap steel from Asian producers will be a huge boost. to the US economy, by almost every measure presently being taken.

@ GMSRGREAT

I remember when Frank was running his mouth and said there was no way the GT would lose to the ZR1. LMFAO.....

What a waste of money. Only someone with a quarter of a brain would pay $450k for a V6.

No wonder Ford is getting out of the car business.....can't beat them.... Quit and drop out.....Great job Ford!

Losing to a car that costs $320k less is an absolute embarrassment.

Back on topic....they should have given this Taurus/Ranger the looks of the new expedition. Thats a nice looking SUV!

I just want to know how much headroom, and legroom this Ranger has. I'm 6'3", 260. Anyone know?

If they only made it electric, I'd but it.

@@papajim
I think the Bloomberg article was being optimistic It did not factor in the effects of AI which will be dramatic in the next couple of years
Teachers doctors etc will be affected by AI Manual occupations will in factories very much affected
Production and profits should rise but employment will fall

"I admire the journalistic skill and the respect for the truth you'll find on Bloomberg's site, but their political orientation is a clear reflection of their founder, former New York City mayor Bloomberg. Very liberal." ---- Posted by: papajim

Just a reminder, Bloomberg ran for and gained that office as a Republican, held that office as a Republican and did not leave the Republican party until AFTER he left that office.

what's your point Vulpine?

Surely you do not suggest that he supports the GOP platform.

He simply did not want to run as a Democrat or Independent. He was gaming it.

"Who wants real bumpers? This isn't 2017. Look at the #1 selling Colorado! Jelly bean front end styling with plastic bumper covers are all the rage. Only a hoodwink would buy this !!" ---- Posted by: TNT GMC

--- Why, Thank you. I'll take that as a compliment. I far prefer the rounded nose over those flat slab nose clips that kill fuel economy due to poor aerodynamics. For having 1000# more weight, standing nearly a foot taller, wider and longer, 4WD and 3x the horsepower of my old '97 Ford Ranger, I'm getting better fuel mileages across the board, in town and on the highway.

So far, I'm liking my 2019 Colorado.

So far, I'm liking my 2019 Colorado.
Posted by: Vulpine | Oct 13, 2018

@Vulpine

Please keep us posted on your new Colorado. I'm thinking you'll be impressed with the drivetrain on that truck.

@papajom
This looks like a government site it is 2016 figures but it quotes 80% services comprise the US economy factoring creased automation due to AI and productivity increases so this figure could be lower
https://2016.trade.gov/publications/ita-newsletter/1010/services-sector-how-best-to-measure-it.asp

And now for another reminder.

Bloomberg was a RINO, Republican in name only. He was a Democrat but decided in 2002 to change to the Republican party so he wouldn't have to run in the crowded Dem field and so he could run on Rudy's coattails. Now he is back to being a Dem again. Always has been. Also is a control freak. Remember when as NYC mayor, he passed laws on what size soda you were allowed to drink?

thanks Robert. During the last 2 or 3 years the dynamics of the US economy have changed dramatically. The Dow up 10k points is an example.

The accelerated growth of industrial firms like Cummins, GM, 3M and CAT tells the story. The return of companies like Carrier from their offshore deployments. Ditto for the re investment in steel mills and iron ore operations.

@DaveZ

I agree regarding Bloombergs orientation, but don't forget that he's been a brilliant businessman who made an honest fortune in the information technology field and devised the first really good cable TV and Web information service for investors back during the 1990s. His political ideas about things like welfare and gun control are dopey but I admire him apart from that.

Papajim
Low employment7 as a result of automation especially artificial intelligence

@papajim
Employment numbers in manufacturing is still dropping companies are making bigger profits but there is no trickle down effect as such for other employees

companies are making bigger profits but there is no trickle down effect.

@Robert

Please take care to ignore the silly Marxist claptrap so common among the media folks. Look at the ways that huge companies like Google, Apple and Microsoft have completely changed the nature of our work. Work is being redefined almost every day. To long for the past is like hoping we can all make a living picking fruit or plowing fields. That's the past. Many American families did very well 150 years ago planting and harvesting. Today it's the very same work that nobody even wants to do.

Our work has changed so much.

I spent the last 35 years making a living staring at a CRT screen and typing all day. None of my ancestors would have ever dreamed of it. Today it's normal. In 10 years nobody will do it.

AI is not to be feared. We will be the masters of it.

@papajim
You are agreeing with me Microsoft apple etc are nottraditional manufacturing Industries they are Hi Tech Industries so they do not employ unskilled workers workers who worked on a factory line would need to upgrade their skills completely
Eventually the traditional uses of unskilled labour like you would have made in factories will be going all high tech